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How to move a non running 180 loader tractor?

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    Posted: 06 Jul 2018 at 4:33am
I recently purchased a shed full of Allis equipment and one of the tractors is a 180 diesel with an allis loader. The tractor has been sitting in the shed for 20 years with the loader propped up in the air by a 2x4. Getting it running where it sits is highly unlikely. Any ideas on how to steer and load something like this? TIA.
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When I bought my 185 not running we just backed up to it with a roll back and winched it on
the truck, might want to take a long bar with you to steer it.Make sure the trans is in neutral.It had a loader also we just let the bucket drag when we got to my place I took another loader and held the bucket up while we let the tractor off the roll back.
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First, I'd get a good chain and lash the loader in a way where it can NOT come down ! I've used a 'comealong' to get the right height off the ground, then use the chain to secure. You can leave the comealong on as a 'safety' backup.
The 'fun' is deciding whether it's better to load rear first or bucket first. I'm thinking bucket first ,all the way to the front of the trailer though it depends on your trailer length and ,hmmm, are the rears 'loaded' ? Once on you may want to lower the bucket for stability and chainability, depending on how far your going and roads and cops of course. I'd use 5 chains, 1 in each corner and the 5th, up and over the bucket. Hopefully you've got lots of room and 'muscle' to get her onboard.
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Run a chain under the bucket and hook it on the loader frame cross tube just above the bucket. This will help steer the tractor where you want it to go. Secure the 2 x 4 or make a better prop. A new battery would allow you to crank the engine momentarily to have power steering. A 5 ft long bar to steer at a front wheel would also be helpful.
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All very good suggestions, thanks!
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Hook a chain to the front axle under the bucket as you pull it will lift the bucket the tractor will follow you around a wide turn make sure the transmission is in neutral you'll be able to winch it on a trailer or roll back truck fairly easy. I moved mine a quarter mile around four turns to get into the shop. I had a guy on it turning the steering wheel to relieve the hyd pressure and operate the brakes and went real slow
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My choice would be a rollback.  Your getting an experienced hauler, winch, tie downs, side rails, etc. and will drop where you want it at end of moving.  They are good tractor movers.




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Are there other running tractors available? is it drove in the barn? is it backed in the barn? does the loader plug into the back of the tractor hydraulics ? if they plug into the back of the tractor just unplug the hoses plug them into another tractor raise loader lock it where you wanted to stay unplug done . I have a 10 foot box tubing bar it fastens from 1 drawbar to another this allows you to push and pull and hold the tractor wherever you want as far as steering we use two 25 foot hoses just unscrew the steering cylinder hoses screw the two new hoses on and plug into pulling tractor use your Hydraulics controls to steer the tractor anywhere you want to go

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Since the loader is up use angle or channel iron the make ram stops. There should be some movement of front wheels by the "armstrong" method. Then a little pushing or pulling from angles should get it out of the barn. Sounds like a fun project,good luck.

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HELL I'D TRY STARTING IT, YOU MIGHT SURPRISED SHE MIGHT POP RIGHT OFF AND ALL YOU NEED IS 15 20 MIN TO LOAD IT
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I finally got it loaded. Took almost 2 hours between getting it out of the shed and loading it on the trailer. The method of a chain on the front axle running under the bucket worked the best. Now on to getting it running. Today was the first time the tractor had been out of the shed since 1995.
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NICE ! I'm happy you got it back home, safe and sound, Couldn't have been a ton of fun, in the hot,hot sun !!
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Sounds like a good save!  Pictures would be nice as usual!
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I can't get pictures uploaded due to large file size..... sorry
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