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Mark J N.Y. View Drop Down
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My dad farmed with them. He also had a H-3 dozer. I now have the dozer and we are still looking for the WD-45.......Mark J.
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I was 6 years old and riding on grandpas ac dozer knocking down poplar trees in northern minnesota.

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66 190gas, 49WF, b1, b10, 37WC, 48WF, B,C, 3 WD'S 66allcrop, 350chevy powered WC
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Grandpa had the first WC on rubber in the area, that was when he took over farming and got rid of the horses.  He also had the first All crop, which great grandma was thrilled about since she didnt have to cook for all the threshing men anymore.  From then on its been all AC with two exceptions, the first was when Grandpa tried farming with an army tank after the war and the second was a Farmall 400 which everyone hated.  We now farm with mostly AC equipment and a Gleaner combine.  I guess I got hooked just by growing up in it.
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Interesting posts!  My dad bought a early B when I was about 3.  I have some pictures of me on his lap "driving" it. This was in NE Ohio in the early '50s.  Thinking about it, I don't know why he got the AC, it was the only one in the neighborhood until someone down the road bought a new B in maybe 1955.  Most of the other farms had IH's or Fords or Fergusons.  My grandfather was killed in a fire when my dad was 8.  He told me he remembered seeing the tractor, a Fordson, all burned up along with the Model T.  Maybe he didn't want something that looked anything like a Fordson.  Anyway, when we moved to Colorado when I was 7 we bought a C that I used to plow and fit gardens, etc in the neighborhood.  I bought a CA when I was in High School, still have it, along with a dozen more.  Sorry for the long post, just got to reminiscing.

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The first one I drove was a CA pulling a disk from my grandfathers farm to my Dads farm back in the 60's but the WD is my favorite.
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Some of my earliest memories involve my grandpa using a Hi-Crop WC to feed his dairy cows. I guess I was warped from that time forward!!
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I rode many an hour sitting on the tool box of a D17 and a WD45 with my uncle on mom's side of the family. He had all A-C except for a pony start JD 730. The first tractor I got to drive was a B with hand brakes. Later on it was the D17 picking up hay. I was too small to reach both the clutch and brakes. Good thing the power director is on the same side as the brakes...
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Here's a picture of the CA that I first operated with my Grandfather cleaning out the dairy barn.
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I grew up on a small farm that used older A-Cs and with the exception of a cross motor Case in the 30s there was never another brand of tractor on the farm.  When I was 15 I decided it would be a fun sideline to own a few pieces of A-C equipment.  16 years later I can safely say that it has been more than I was planning!
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It was a 40 combine in my uncle's pasture that did it to me.
 
Got a 60 combine to replace Dad's old Massey Clipper when I was 16, and it's been a big spiral ever since....


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Grew up with them. My first memory was dad's two WD45s & my first actual  drive experience was a D14 on a crimper. I always loved the PD stick it is soo handy especially when baling hay. The D17IV was the best tractor ever made. When dad died he had two of them and I owned a 200. I still have the D17 with a 500 series loader. I now farm with a N6 Gleaner, 8030FWA, 7060, 190XT and the D17 loader. 
 
I have alway been impressed with the simplicity of AC's. The D17 pound for pound is the best pulling tractor I have been around as well as nimble, especially the narrow front D17. I got rid of dad's narrow front series IV that he bought new to help pay for my 190XT rebuild and regret it to this day. Great tractors!!
 
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Dad bought a "C" in 1948 or 1949 and I remember riding that "BIG, WIDE" seat with either him or my Mom.    Dad traded that "C" for a "CA" in 1952 and bought a second "CA" in 1957.   I got to use both of them for all of the jobs on the farm.  I later bought a used "WD45" and used that for about 5 years.  I then traded that off for a new Allis "175".  All of these tractors except for the "WD45" came from my uncle, who was an "AC" dealer here in Missouri.
 
I still run Dads last "CA" for my light work and my "175" does all the heavy lifting and work.  I just don't like any other color for tractors, but now that AGCO is going away from Orange, I may have to look at Kubota.
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Both of my grandpas used AC's;  My dad and I still have some of their original tractors including a restored WD45 gas wide front and a 160 diesel.  WD45 is restored and the 160 is still in use;  This point is exactly why I wish the ORANGE would continue even if as an AGCO product.  The current and next generations will only associate orange with Kubota and not the heritage of Allis that has remained thru AGCO.  John Deere and IH have capitalized on this for years and will continue to do so;   

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Hearing stories from my uncles about plowing demos back in the 40's and 50's and how AC was always at the top. Deere was usually the worst for power on the plow. My uncle Verlyn had a whole lot of real good stories. Also my Dad grew up on Case and IH tractors but when he bought his second tractor (a WC, first was a VAC) he was sold. Then he bought a couple WD's and then the clencher was when he bought a WD45. He always called it the bucking bronco that couldn't be stopped. Also riding on the toolbox of that 45 and later in the cab of the 190xt made me a life long AC lover.
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We built farm equipment for living at our shop Krause Mfg Inc. in Bellingham WA. They loacal AC dealer was Meridian Equipment which was owned by Bob Vanderploeg who is 1/4 mile down the road.  So I would see stuff everyday. My dad started tractor pulling after our family went back to Lake Crystal Minnisota for FarmFest 76 when I was 5 years old and soon be built a sled, with Bob Vanderploeg. He pulled everthing that had a motor on his lot ! He had this D 21 with a 7080 motor in it and I FEEL IN LOVE with 21 !!!  I drove one of his new tractors in the local parade everyyear  when I was about 5 years old uo to when he sold the dealer in 82. Since then I have bought and sold 20 D 21s over the years and wish now I had some of those back. Oh well, cant have them all. Oh my dad grew up on a WD 45 then the businees started at the Dairy farm in Blaine WA. in the early 60s.
 
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Driving a D17 series I gas at the age of 4 while my Dad scooped silage out of the bunk on the back to cows.  After college, I logged 1000s hours running a F3 gleaner at Asgrow Seed.  Don Moore Equipment, Lacon IL was a great AC dealership with super knowledge of combines & parts.  The AC combines hooked me the most.  A gleaner will give a great grain sample & has the best cornhead in my opinion.  If you can't pickup downed corn with a gleaner cornhead, then it can't be done.  I now own 7060 black, 1300-24', 2000 6-18plow, 170g/500 loader, numerous K2 machines.
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Dad started farming in the 30's with a square back WC and horse then added a round back WC, I was born in 1950 and he purchased a new WD the same year then added a 1954 WD45 These were the first tractors I drove. While I was home he at one time had 3 WD45's then traded for a Series IV D17 and then a another 45 left to get his first Diesel a 180.  I left home went to college then farmed on my own and my brother joined Dad at home. I purchased a 190XT III and sold it to my brother (mistake) and went IH 1066,706 (loved my 1066) and even had a 44 MH.  Left Farming to become an agronomy manager for a Coop and been there 28 years. Now when I can I help My brother and drive either a 8070, 8050, 8010, or 200. Some times a M2 or M3.  He still farms about a 1000 acres near Dad's who at 89 combined 400 acres of beans and 100 acres of corn this fall and drives that 8070  and 24 ft disc in the spring  I have a mechanically restored D17 II which I use to clear snow for me and my neighbors and give grandkids a ride.  Hope to help Bill when I retire on those AC's.     
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My dad owned an Allis dealership in the late 60's through the early 80's.  I loved sitting in those new tractors in front of the shop.
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Kind of like most others, didn't have much choice.  Dad, uncle, grandpa, and great-grandad farmed with AC's.  Later on, Dad & my uncle owned an AC dealership in the 60's and 70's.  Grew up with the WD's, etc. and then got to be around the new ones (100 series) when I was in high school.  Still looking for that perfect One-Ninety XT Series III with a canopy (I've seen a picture of it on the Forum before) to add to the collection.
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I was born hooked, it's in my blood.
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Sitting on the toolbox of my Dad's WD45 when I was 4 watching the short flame above the muffler while we were plowing in the field north of the house. When I started farming I bought a WD with a mounted picker and stuck motor for $200. I cut the picker off with a torch (whoops!) got the motor unstuck and went to farming 107 acres. 1981. A lifetime of it. GO ORANGE!!!FOREVER!!!
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My earliest memories of farmlife were involved with AC tractors.  My great-grandfather had 2 WD's that ran the farm in the 1970's. On my mother's side of the family, it was all AC tractors.  Mostly WD, WD45 and associated equipment.  I grew up in a virtual time-warp that was 20 years behind (its kinda still that way).
 
Given all that history, you often take it for granted and keep looking over the fence at the greener grass.  As I got older, I was enamored of other brands and had the opportunity to have some ownership in an A JD.  I loved that tractor, but it burned alot of gas doing its jobs.  I had a '37 WC given to me at a time I'd hardly have it.  However, we fixed it up to usable condition and I started using it on the farm for my own projects.  I could pull just as much on 1/2 the fuel and 1500lbs. less tractor weight.  I worked that tractor alot and soon realized how far ahead Allis was for its time.  This was in the early 80's.  Over that decade, I collected up enough WC-suitable equipment to get any job done I needed to do.
 
When I struck out farming on my own in 1990, a WC was my workhorse.  More than one night, I'd put the WC in the barn with the exhaust manifold glowing bright orange.  It never failed me and did its jobs very well.  I managed to get a WD fixed up in 1995 and upgraded things from there.  As good as the WD is, it never compared with the WC for cultivation and ease of getting the cultivator on/off to do different jobs. One could argue that the WC was quicker to hitch up to any job because you only had one hitch point - the drawbar.  If the WC had hydrauilics, I'd likely never have wanted a WD.  At the time, I could buy a WD cheaper than retrofitting remote hydraulics to a WC.  Make no mistake, the WC is a venerable tractor - but the WD is better overall.
 
To this day, if anyone asks me what tractor would you run a small farm with?  My answer always is, "you can't beat a WD for flexibility, utility, and the ability to get the job done - for the price paid."  Unless you are in the very best farmland, a WD45 has no advantage over a WD.
 
A quick story about the WD.  I bought my first modern tractor in 1997, frankly because the older tractors were running my farm so profitably that income taxes were eating me ALIVE!  I was paying enough in taxes to afford the payment on a new tractor, so I bought one, a 1997 JD 5300.  While the salesman was helping me pick out what tractor I could use: he asked what size equipment I was pulling, about how many acres, etc.  The last question asked was what tractor was I currently using, he nearly fell out in the floor when I told him a WD Allis.  His reply was, " If the 5300 doesn't outshine that WD, we'll take it back or somehow make it right with you".   Okay, that's good enough for me.
 
The JD came to the farm facing a freshly plowed creek bottom that needed disking.  I had to unhook the disc from the WD to get the JD into action.  As soon as the disc blades hit the dirt, the tractor stopped, spinning.  The JD could not pull the disk at all.  The bottom was adjacent to my home and had brought the JD to a stop just at my side porch steps, with my wife watching unappily.  I looked over at her standing there with arms folded and shaking her head. "Git me the phone!", I said.
 
I used our cordless phone to call the dealership and got the salesman on the phone.  " This 5300 won't do the job, at all", I said.  "I can't believe that", said the salesman.  "Well, If you'll stay on the line I let you hear it for yourself", I replied.  My wife held the phone while I abused the 5300, then unhitched it and replaced it with the WD.  The WD took off from the ruts the 5300 had dug, in 3rd gear, and roared around the bottom wide open.  I believe that old tractor was just as agitated as I was and put on a good show.  The sound was echoing off the hills just about as loud as I had ever heard.
 
I came back to where I had started, my wife holding the phone outward so the reciever was toward the creek bottom.  I jumped down, snatched the phone out of her hand, and shouted into the phone, "You still there!?".  "Yeah, the mechanic has already left and has instructions to do whatever it takes to make you happy - or haul the tractor back.  I heard the whole thing".
 
The mechanic did show up about 45 minutes later, with a truck piled up with weights.  We kept bolting on weights till the 5300 could pull the disc,  but then the engine was taxed a bit.  The mechanic told me he'd heard the salesman declare the 5300 superior to the WD and warned him he didn't know diddly about WD's, and that he would likely be hearing from me again. That's how he got the job of bringing out the weights.
 
At the end of that season, within the warranty period of the tractor, the transmission was shot and the engine was knowing it had spent a hard year.  The same salesman made me a sweetheart of a deal to upgrade to a 5410, remembering his previous comments he asked, "I hope we can finally get you a tractor to replace that WD, I know it has to be deserving of a retirement."
 
I've got news for JD, AGCO, and all the other tractor manufacturers.  The new tractors make my back feel a bit better and my hands don't callous over from handling the steering wheel anymore - but they haven't replaced that WD yet.
 
That's why I'm an Allis man.
 
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There isn't much a WC can't do.

WD's just do it better.
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Mark, now that's a great story. I'm printing it out.
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Mark:
You should send that story with a pic of the WD to the Old Allis News!!
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My father owned the local AC dealership from 68-93 and I spent most of my childhood and teenage years there.

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When I was little my grandfather had a farm. He wasn't brand loyal and had various tractors. I got to a point where I sort of needed a tractor and talked with my uncles about the tractors they used on the farm. The only ones they really liked were the Allis WD45 and the John Deere 3010 (and disliked the Case DC, Farmall 450, and Ford 960). They really praised the Allis, and it was the only tractor they had for all 20 years they farmed. They also really liked the JD 3010, but that would have been more tractor than I would have needed, so I went with ACs.
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Originally posted by Alberta Phil Alberta Phil wrote:

Mark:
You should send that story with a pic of the WD to the Old Allis News!!
 
Thanks for the comments.  Its funny how time moves on and the changes that come with it.  
A brave young farmer and his WC, 1992
 
The WD in my little story, picking corn in 2001
 
Passing the torch, 2009.  My daughter's fiancee asked my advice on tractors - you know my answer.  His reply was a nice WD45 and a chance to learn how to use it.
Ironicly, that's the same disc and the same bottom that brought the 5300 JD to its knees. 
 
Teaching the young man how to pick corn with his WD45, 2009.  I'm beginning to look as rough as my WC did in '91, getting gray in all the places it was rusty.
 
 
There isn't much a WC can't do.

WD's just do it better.
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Is that a New Idea picker? Those are good machines.
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When Lonn said Bucking Bronco that made me remember some things I saw my Dad do on a WD.Those were the good old days!
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When my dad bought  an Allis B about 1980. Always thought Allis' were the prettiest tractors. Everyone else around here had JD or Farmalls so I liked having something different. Not to mention we also have the best website.
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