Help finding Allis c under seat light lenses

I have the original light and bracket that mounts under the seat on a 1948 c but the lenses are broken and missing. I know this light is very rare looks to be a two piece lense one on the bottom and the front possibly different colors. Does anyone know where I can get replacement lenses thanks

Those lamps are tough to find never mind just the lens'. You could try e-bay for starters. I remember there was an outfit making that original lamp assy. I remember seeing it advertised in OAN toward the back of the magazine. Maybe Stiener Tractor parts might have something? We have a replacement we sell which has plastic lens'....
Steve@B&B

Yes red cup lense and clear round lens at least I assume that's how it's is supposed to be.

Acmichael wrote: I have the original light and bracket that mounts under the seat on a 1948 c but the lenses are broken and missing. I know this light is very rare looks to be a two piece lense one on the bottom and the front possibly different colors. Does anyone know where I can get replacement lenses thanks

Michael, I had the same problem, and turned the internet upside down looking for something that would work. Re: the red glass cylinder "cup" lens, It worked pretty well to make one from a strip of thin plexi or lexan, bending it into a circular shape and tinting it with the red tail-light lens repair tape sold at auto parts stores.

For the clear, dish-shaped "flat" lens I scrounged ebay for a long time searching "clear railroad lamp lens" and such, but never came up with a passable clear lens the right diameter. I did find red ones the correct diameter, actually several in a lot, and if you or anyone wants a red one of let me know ;-)

At one time, Norm's Toys had a reproduction that was very correct other than the red cylindrical lens which was made of pinkish red plastic. The clear dish-shaped lens and the rest of the assembly was spot-on.

After all that I decided to be done with it, got off my billfold and bought an intact original. Those old B/C tail lights are really cool IMO and such a nice original touch.   



Edited by Bill (E.C.MO) - 23 Nov 2015 at 9:01am

Anyone have a pic of an original? 

Scott B wrote: I've got one I'll sell. Was going to add it but use my tractors too much and afraid I'll break it

How much would you want for it and does it have the clear round lense and the red half moon lense

Chad(WI) wrote: The M crawlers used the same Guide light ( maybe others? ) . Red rear lense....clear bottom window. Bill may have a goldmine lol.

Good to know, thanks Chad! I'd have to check, but I think have four or five of those red lenses.

CrestonM wrote: Anyone have a pic of an original?

This isn't a great view, but I happened to have it loaded on photobucket:



Edited by Bill (E.C.MO) - 23 Nov 2015 at 9:25pm

CrestonM wrote: Anyone have a pic of an original?

This isn't a great view, but I happened to have it loaded on photobucket:

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Here are a couple of pics.  A person would really want some type of rubber/cork gasket to separate the glass.  And, please don't tell the loving wife I had the tractor parts on the dining room table!

Is the window supposed to be up or down? I've seen them both ways?

Thanks Bill. Sure does help to have a parts book for a B/C lol.

CrestonM wrote: So why are these lights so rare? Were they not standard equipment?

If you where as old as these lights and been hanging on the back of a tractor that things could hit you. U would be rare too.

My C has one. The glass is good, no chips, no cracks, knock on wood.
I made a new retaining clip, the original was rusted down to about ready to drop the glass! I painted the case PO1, was it supposed to be black? I remember searching for a higher wattage bulb, think I found something hotter than stock.

I have a couple NOS clear lens and a couple of used ones. The red curved one is the rarity around here.
David from jax

CrestonM wrote: Funny story...when I got my B in 2009 (I was 11) I drove it around at night a little bit and couldn't figure out why the PO put such a dim little light back there. Then later I find out it's a rare original light!  Even so, I'd like to take it off and add another headlight for a work light. Then maybe I can actually see the plow behind me. This light is horribly dim.

It could be your bulb is a 12v. A 12v bulb will work, but a 6v bulb will burn a little brighter. Don't expect much though ;-)

BrianC wrote: My C has one. The glass is good, no chips, no cracks, knock on wood. I made a new retaining clip, the original was rusted down to about ready to drop the glass! I painted the case PO1, was it supposed to be black? I remember searching for a higher wattage bulb, think I found something hotter than stock.

Brian, in all the original B&W literature I've studied the case always appears to be black. I painted mine black. If that's wrong, it would be good to know. Does someone know for sure?