Help 8050 hard steering

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   I’m had this tractor 3-4 years it’s been harder to steer the most of the time I’ve owned it. Been bad enough twice were I’ve had to use brakes to steer. First time old school Allis mechanic pulled the priority valve and cleaned it a got me going. Second time I did it. It now is currently steerable but takes EFFORT. It had some other issues to so it landed at the Agco dealership(was Allis back in the day). The tech that got assigned to it admits he’s new to working on tractors but sounds fairly mechanically inclined. He agrees it steers hard. He’s checked the priority valve, checked flows and pressures. He has changed filters it’s no better. He admits he’s at a loss where to look next. Flows and pressures are good. I told him I’d do some research over the weekend and get back with him. 

Ideas? 

Something in the steering column? He has the front end up on blocks and still stubborn.

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victoryallis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 15 Apr 2010 Location: Ludington mi Points: 2876	Post Options Post Reply Quote victoryallis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Help 8050 hard steering Posted: 23 Sep 2023 at 7:33am
	I’m had this tractor 3-4 years it’s been harder to steer the most of the time I’ve owned it. Been bad enough twice were I’ve had to use brakes to steer. First time old school Allis mechanic pulled the priority valve and cleaned it a got me going. Second time I did it. It now is currently steerable but takes EFFORT. It had some other issues to so it landed at the Agco dealership(was Allis back in the day). The tech that got assigned to it admits he’s new to working on tractors but sounds fairly mechanically inclined. He agrees it steers hard. He’s checked the priority valve, checked flows and pressures. He has changed filters it’s no better. He admits he’s at a loss where to look next. Flows and pressures are good. I told him I’d do some research over the weekend and get back with him. Ideas? Something in the steering column? He has the front end up on blocks and still stubborn.
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cowkicker Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 21 Mar 2010 Location: Ky Points: 502	Post Options Post Reply Quote cowkicker Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Sep 2023 at 8:04am
	If it is a FWA, the axle u-joints could be dry and trying to seize. If you have it jacked up, unhook one end of the steering cylinder and use a pry bar between the tire and spindle and try to turn the wheels. New u-joints made my 8070 steer like new.

Tenn allis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 24 Nov 2016 Location: Tennessee Points: 126	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tenn allis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Sep 2023 at 8:05am
	Take the steering cylinder loose on one end and see if you have the same results That will tell ya for sure if you have a hydraulic issue or a binding issue in the front end

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	Two wheel drive or FWA?

MACK Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664	Post Options Post Reply Quote MACK Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Sep 2023 at 8:49pm
	Make sure the office didn't get lost during one of the checks. MACK