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Heart Patient d17 (226 to 426 aka 3500 MKII) |
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Peterson
Orange Level Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Location: Westboro, Wi Points: 862 |
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I wouldn't think it will either. Good starting point atleast. Can always make a steel one later on if need be.
Hopefully be getting the head check for cracks in the next couple weeks at carquest. Then porting and polishing. Then off the machine shop to get the spring pockets opened up for the bigger springs. Then back to carquest for new guides, grinding the valves and seats then a surfacing. Then the head will be done! |
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7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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NDBirdman
Orange Level Access Joined: 30 Jul 2011 Location: ND Points: 1377 |
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Love the thread, thanks! Can't wait to see this finished, I will have to come visit sometime when your pulling it. Looks like it will be bad-arse for sure!
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1955 WD45 S#205467, 190XT #6652 DXT
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LeonR2013
Orange Level Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Location: Fulton, Mo Points: 3500 |
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If this 17 puller holds up to built 426 they should be considered one of the best tractors ever built. Seems to me they would almost been impossible to wear out! Leon R Cmo
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SHAMELESS
Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: EAST NE Points: 29486 |
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you go Pete! you're pulling for us, and we're pulling for you!
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Peterson
Orange Level Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Location: Westboro, Wi Points: 862 |
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Thanks guys!!!! She's goin to be a mean one when its done!
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7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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lowell66dart
Orange Level Joined: 10 Jul 2013 Location: Paulina La. Points: 964 |
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Any progress?
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AC 6080 (8030,7060,200,175,D-17HC, 6040,160,6140 all gone) Farmall 1066 & 656 Hi-Clear (for sale), White 2-62 High Clearance, JD 4255 Hi Clear.
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Peterson
Orange Level Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Location: Westboro, Wi Points: 862 |
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Not yet, been doing spring tillage and planting. Sooner or later it will get worked on. Thanks for the interest guys!
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7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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lowell66dart
Orange Level Joined: 10 Jul 2013 Location: Paulina La. Points: 964 |
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I drag raced for quite a while and really enjoyed fabbing things that you just couldn't buy. I am sorta glad there is no tractor pulling down here but enjoy following the projects you all build.
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AC 6080 (8030,7060,200,175,D-17HC, 6040,160,6140 all gone) Farmall 1066 & 656 Hi-Clear (for sale), White 2-62 High Clearance, JD 4255 Hi Clear.
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ac720nut
Orange Level Joined: 09 Feb 2016 Location: Dexter Mi Points: 1217 |
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Sorry guys been following this closely and and don't want to see it lost so I'll bump it up and hope Mr Peterson has some more info. Really would like to see this thing run
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Peterson
Orange Level Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Location: Westboro, Wi Points: 862 |
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She isn't dead yet. Lol been busy with field work, plus the milk price is in the toilet. So progress is slow. Thanks for keeping tabs on the build guys!!!
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7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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ac720nut
Orange Level Joined: 09 Feb 2016 Location: Dexter Mi Points: 1217 |
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bump
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ac720nut
Orange Level Joined: 09 Feb 2016 Location: Dexter Mi Points: 1217 |
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found it again, any progress?
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Peterson
Orange Level Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Location: Westboro, Wi Points: 862 |
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Nothing new yet. But planning on getting the head checked out soon.
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7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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ac720nut
Orange Level Joined: 09 Feb 2016 Location: Dexter Mi Points: 1217 |
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Don't let her die, ya got me hooked want to see her done
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Peterson
Orange Level Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Location: Westboro, Wi Points: 862 |
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She's not dead, just on hold. Milk price sucks, so no play money. It will get done, sooner or later!
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7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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Dipstick In
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Remington, In. Points: 8602 |
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My experience is if you got time to work on your tractor, you ain't got the money,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, if you got the money, you ain't got the time,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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You don't really have to be smart if you know who is!
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Peterson
Orange Level Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Location: Westboro, Wi Points: 862 |
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Well guys, little update. Been a very slow build on this thing but a little progress it coming. I brought the head to the local advance auto to be checked for cracks and it has none. So now I will be either having him counter bore the spring pockets for the bigger springs or a local machine shop. Then back to advance auto for a valve job. Then home to port and polish it. So I'll let y'all know how it goes in the coming weeks.
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7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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Peterson
Orange Level Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Location: Westboro, Wi Points: 862 |
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Local advance auto/old carquest machine shop will be cutting the head for the bigger valve springs. I gave him the box of new guides, springs, locks, retainers and the old valves. Told him to grind them if needed and to surface it if needed. Said he would start on it prolly next week. Shouldn't be to bad for cost. Can't wait!
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7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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Peterson
Orange Level Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Location: Westboro, Wi Points: 862 |
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7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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Peterson
Orange Level Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Location: Westboro, Wi Points: 862 |
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I'll be using some comp cams beehive valve springs. The part number is 26120 along with the corresponding BBC retainers and locks. At installed height the pressure is 80lbs. Machinist told me the boom said factory was 40lbs. So I think double will be fine. Lol I looked up what a 12 valve cummins with the heavier springs is, and supposedly they are over 100lbs installed. So I think this will be fine. I can always shim these up.
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7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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CTuckerNWIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22823 |
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That head looks TOO smooth. When I was at CAT, as a line inspector, all diesel heads were milled and couldn't be too smooth, in order to bite and hold the head gasket.
I'm NOT a diesel mechanic and have never played one on TV, so take this with a grain of salt |
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Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
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SteveM C/IL
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8244 |
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Charlie, I hear the new tech in gaskets require that smooth finish...I'm no authority. Maybe Brian Jasper Co can enlighten.
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injpumpEd
Orange Level Access Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Walnut IL Points: 4917 |
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smoother the better!
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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SteveM C/IL
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8244 |
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There ya go! Ed "the puller" would know.
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ac720nut
Orange Level Joined: 09 Feb 2016 Location: Dexter Mi Points: 1217 |
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Any new progress ?
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ac720nut
Orange Level Joined: 09 Feb 2016 Location: Dexter Mi Points: 1217 |
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When can we expect to se this thing run ?
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Peterson
Orange Level Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Location: Westboro, Wi Points: 862 |
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Sorry guys no progress. I just haven't had the time to work on it. I do want to though. I haven't given up on it!
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7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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