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jerbob
Orange Level Joined: 07 Aug 2017 Location: Michigan Points: 961 |
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Oh Man were you lucky! Thank goodness you weren’t hurt as well as your tractor.
I almost lost my Bobcat Skidsteer a few years that way. Was out to the barn which has no running water when, while using a cut off wheel set off a grease fire in the belly pan. Had a large extinguisher on hand and got it out but it was a crazy few minutes. |
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NomoreJohnDeere
Silver Level Joined: 24 Jul 2017 Location: Missouri Ozarks Points: 308 |
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My adjuster is stripped out, was this type of three point arm used on ag tractors? |
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 31116 |
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Looks similar to those used on 170/180 series, likely S IV ag lift arm adjuster.
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kblackav8or
Bronze Level Joined: 05 Nov 2018 Location: Woodland WA Points: 80 |
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Take it off and wander down to a tractor place. Probably easily replaced. Guessing it is probably Cat 1 3 point stuff. The idea of a crawler with a 3 point was always cool to me. if I could put a 3 point and a 540 rpm live PTO on my HD-6, I would have a hillside flaiil mowing machine unlike any other. Be able to mow up and down stuff no tractor could dare. I think only International was the other company with 3 point's on the back of crawlers but I could be wrong. But yes I suspect your adjuster is either common or a replacement can be readily adapted to work for you. May have to play with bushings/spacers or drill a hole out here or there but it should be doable. |
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Jim.ME
Orange Level Joined: 19 Nov 2016 Location: Maine Points: 952 |
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In years past, 3 point and PTO were more common on crawlers. John Deere, Terratrac/Case, Oliver, Hesston/Fiat were some of the others, along with IH and AC, that made crawlers with 3 point hitch and PTO in years past. Several machines, Oliver and JD, with the 3 point and PTO have been on the Maine Craigslist in the past year. Many foreign manufacturers made them as well and I believe some of them may still have the option.
You should be able to match something up for an adjuster. |
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DiyDave
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 51721 |
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Are both ends of the toplink exactly the same? If both are cat 1, then the farm stores likely will have 1. Just make sure the length is right, IIRR, there are like 2 or 3 lengths you can get...
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Ray54
Orange Level Access Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Points: 4546 |
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Fiat/New Holland has new ag crawler tractors with 3 point.Popular for hillside vineyards,with more than one model. There were a few Lamborghini ,and Same crawlers as well as some other brands I never heard of.
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NomoreJohnDeere
Silver Level Joined: 24 Jul 2017 Location: Missouri Ozarks Points: 308 |
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I pulled it apart
The male threads will clean up some but the female is toast. I'll try hardware store nuts to see if the threads match and if so make a new bottom piece. Or weld it all together. I think a little dozer with hydraulic down pressure on a 3 point with a hydraulic auger would be trick for corner posts. |
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JohnCO
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Niwot Colo Points: 8992 |
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Glad your machine didn't get to really burning. I was welding a rear view mirror bracket on my JCB skid steer loader when something started burning under the floor. Found a spark started the greasy rubber cover of the foot throttle on fire. Got it out ok but the cable housing was bad and had to spend a hundred bucks getting a new one, expensive lesson! I've got a Hesston/Fiat 605 crawler with a 3 point and pto. Never have used the pto but did pull a 3 point single shank subsoiler one time.
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NomoreJohnDeere
Silver Level Joined: 24 Jul 2017 Location: Missouri Ozarks Points: 308 |
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I'm going to hold off welding until I drop the pan and clean out but I got this the next trip to the farm>
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NomoreJohnDeere
Silver Level Joined: 24 Jul 2017 Location: Missouri Ozarks Points: 308 |
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Hey guys
I've changed my fuel filters and had leakage so I removed and tried to reinstall. The gasket that was supplied with wix filter is too large I think. It's rubbery and thin. There are two filters but only first one leaking and I mean pouring out. Has anybody changed theirs recently and had good luck with fitment of your seal. This is the canister type. Does anybody know how to search for and find gaskets by size, in or on a computer site? thanks |
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NomoreJohnDeere
Silver Level Joined: 24 Jul 2017 Location: Missouri Ozarks Points: 308 |
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Center bolt gasket 4048794
Center bolt 4048794 Body to head gasket 4048787 from my parts book I cut a ugly thing from cork and tightened till it squeaked and wala.......... |
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NomoreJohnDeere
Silver Level Joined: 24 Jul 2017 Location: Missouri Ozarks Points: 308 |
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The local dealer couldn't help so I contacted Sandy Lake as they support this site but no filter parts.
Does anybody have one of these around they would part with? This is the thru bolt of the filter Does anybody know what kind of gasket or washer intended to go on it? |
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NomoreJohnDeere
Silver Level Joined: 24 Jul 2017 Location: Missouri Ozarks Points: 308 |
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I've been downunder...........
I'll clean this out and finish my welding The PO had routed two hydraulic lines improperly causing them to get cut so I can get some new and stop the mess Edited by NomoreJohnDeere - 02 Oct 2019 at 5:36pm |
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DougG
Orange Level Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 8110 |
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That happens,, using water on a fire like that with all the flamables around could've been bad! As in spread easliy
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NomoreJohnDeere
Silver Level Joined: 24 Jul 2017 Location: Missouri Ozarks Points: 308 |
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I found 1 1/4 inch nut with 7 threads per inch to fit the adjuster arm It works now Previous owners had made new brackets where the arms mount to machine. They used a torch for the holes and they were sloppy loose. I reamed them out more with the torch and installed some bushings so they would fit the cat 2 pins. |
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NomoreJohnDeere
Silver Level Joined: 24 Jul 2017 Location: Missouri Ozarks Points: 308 |
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I got 2 new hoses to put on to fix the ones mentioned above. Had to remove some others to get at them.
One wouldn't stop leaking at the fitting so I got the pipe wrench on it. Look what I did............ Flattened those threads out real good. At least its easy to get to. |
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NomoreJohnDeere
Silver Level Joined: 24 Jul 2017 Location: Missouri Ozarks Points: 308 |
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I heard a rumble and footsteps on the porch.......
Haven't found my serial number yet so I don't know if they are the correct ones |
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NomoreJohnDeere
Silver Level Joined: 24 Jul 2017 Location: Missouri Ozarks Points: 308 |
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Consider a hydraulic drive sickle mower or flail, no need to wait to find a pto ?
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Ian Beale
Orange Level Joined: 03 Oct 2011 Location: New South Wales Points: 973 |
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Re "I think only International was the other company with 3 point's on the back of crawlers but I could be wrong. " The Fiat Agricultural series had both. They are in demand here in Oz for hilly hobby farms, as they are and have still have spares backing. IIRC you folk saw some via Hesston
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NomoreJohnDeere
Silver Level Joined: 24 Jul 2017 Location: Missouri Ozarks Points: 308 |
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I had a 1010 John Deere with 3 point. A PO had torched the pto shaft internally to do a repair without removing so much stuff.
Here's the original nomorejohndeere Don't walk......run |
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Ray54
Orange Level Access Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Points: 4546 |
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The Fait Ag crawler is very popular with the winos here.But in USA it is blue with New Holland decals.A friend has one after using old IH T6 and TD 6 . He was having trouble finding new engine parts for the TD 6 gas start,so finally bought a Fiat. Has 2000+ hours and is not impressed,tries to find others to drive it. Has gotten more old TD6's gathered for parts. And is back to using a TD 6 for most of what me does.
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ACJohn
Silver Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Horseheads, NY Points: 147 |
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That's one heck of a ripper! I'd like to see that in action. Do the shanks remain vertical as it is lifted or do they swing in an arc?
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NomoreJohnDeere
Silver Level Joined: 24 Jul 2017 Location: Missouri Ozarks Points: 308 |
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They are homemade and simply stored in there upside down.
I am going to try them out this winter and see what they do. I'm not sure on the shape what they are good for nor do I know if all of them could be used at once. They stay as vertical as the 3 point allows There is so much rock in/on the ground around here I'm sure I can break one off without trying too hard. I guess that's why they named it Stone County.......... |
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NomoreJohnDeere
Silver Level Joined: 24 Jul 2017 Location: Missouri Ozarks Points: 308 |
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I drained the oil out since I have the belly pan off. According to this I need about 15 gallons of oil to refill the various compartments. They all call for 10w-30 oil. I'm assuming motor oil? It makes no mention of hydraulic vs engine oil in description. Am I on track? |
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skyboy
Bronze Level Joined: 09 Nov 2015 Location: 15122 Points: 18 |
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I'm jealous!!
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NomoreJohnDeere
Silver Level Joined: 24 Jul 2017 Location: Missouri Ozarks Points: 308 |
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I need new eyes, yikes, what a mess
Good news is it didn't leak when I powered up. I got a question for the experienced I need to remove a track and have located a pin that is different from the rest as it has a hole in one end of it. I'm assuming it is the master pin? My question is what direction does it come out? Driving the hole side out or hole side through the rail? |
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NomoreJohnDeere
Silver Level Joined: 24 Jul 2017 Location: Missouri Ozarks Points: 308 |
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I am asking if the pin is straight or tapered to fit, so I can beat on it any direction?
I removed guard from front sprocket and found this: Anybody have a front sprocket with good internals? |
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CTuckerNWIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22823 |
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I would think the master pin is straight, and could go out either direction.
That front idler may have a bushing in it that can be replaced. If it doesn't, it could be bored out to take a bushing. |
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NomoreJohnDeere
Silver Level Joined: 24 Jul 2017 Location: Missouri Ozarks Points: 308 |
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I've soaked the pin with juice and smacked around on it a bit but no dice yet.
Chained a ten ton jack up against the pin and stalled it with no luck. Removed the pad on the master link for better access. I'm thinking about cobbling up a mount and using the rear 3 pt. hydraulic cylinder to push on it......... For those with manual fuel shut off........ I started it up and it was running rough as in missing. Freaked me out for a minute. I put my finger on the fuel shut off lever on the pump and it wasn't in "run" position all the way. It was only off a little bitty bit. Made all the difference, purrs well again. I'll add a spring to the rod to keep that from happening. |
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