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    Posted: 10 Mar 2020 at 8:14am
We bought a used gravity tank for diesel and I'm making a list to get a filter hose and nozzle combo. I have the valve that came on the tank but no matter what I type in i cant find a replacement for it. Its one of the standard ones you can lock closed with a pad lock and then when unlocked you can push it in and hook a little chain to leave it on. I can probably use this old one if I can get the old hose fitting out of it but why cant i find a new one? 
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Check with your fuel supplier
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I doubt they will be able to help me. Does anyone know what these valves are called. 
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"On/off valves for fuel" is what McMaster Carr called them. Its got a cheesy lock hole on the handle like a lockable ball valve. $ 55.56 for a 3/4 My supplier uses gate valves with a chain to lock thru the handle
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I was in the fuel business for 15 years. Any fuel supplier should have them. They are a common item with them. Any farm coop, family center, Tractor Supply has them. They are called shut off valve for an over head tank.

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Thief-Proof Lock For Fuel Storage Tanks
FARM SHOW Magazine » Thief-Proof Lock For Fuel Storage Tanks

Thief-Proof Lock For Fuel Storage Tanks

"When a tank of fuel was worth $90, a padlock was enough. Now that a tank may hold much more in fuel, it's worth the extra effort to protect it," says Dick Bittney of Webster City, Iowa, inventor of a new "lock box" for fuel storage tanks.

Bittney's lock consists of a heavy gauge steel box that locks over the tank flow valve and fittings. One end of the box is removed with a key. To turn on the gas, you pull off that cover and reach in with a small tool that hangs by the side of the lockbox, and turn the valve.

"Any thief can pop a padlock off in minutes, but this lock is almost impossible to break into without special equipment. Not only is it constructed from heavy steel with a cover that cannot be pried open, but the entire box spins so that if a thief did try to break into it, he would find it difficult to work on," explains Bittney.

Besides the flow valve lock, which can be mounted ahead or behind the gas filter, Bittney has also invented a similar lockbox for filler caps on fuel tanks. Made from the same heavy steel, it installs over the filler cap and also spins to frustrate thieves.  No special tools are needed to install them.


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There is no such thing as 'thief proof'! thief slower downer is best one can get!
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Dad used to say "locks are to keep an honest man honest".

We never locked the the gas or diesel tanks on the farm until the mid-late 70's.
Gas was up by the garage and we had some D-Series gas, station wagon and plenty of small engine and snowmobiles but when an older brother was caught filling a buddy's car for them to go on a double date, it got locked up as others then knew it was accessible.
Brother's defense was they had just enough coin for the drive-in and buddy's car was near empty. We busted his chops for years with that defense as Dad told him they could have bought gas instead of the beer he knew they had also bought . . . . . .
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We never had the tanks locked as a kid till one night I heard Dad running off an intruder with a few rounds of.22LR
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Here is what I came up with as an update. I was able to get the old hose out of the valve with some patience. No lock because its empty right now, but diesel is cheap so it wont be for long. 
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nice setup, but.... please put an elbow on the filter output to the hose. It'll eliminate the stress of the bend you now have

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I bought an elbow, I just didn't install it yet. Im going to keep an eye on the hose and if it looks like it is going to kink i will install. Its a 1'' hose and I mounted the nozzle so that there isnt much stress on it. It will be heavier when full of fuel though.

You've got me worried about it kinking now jay lol


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Originally posted by Rhoadesy_65 Rhoadesy_65 wrote:

Here is what I came up with as an update. I was able to get the old hose out of the valve with some patience. No lock because its empty right now, but diesel is cheap so it wont be for long. 


I am a firm believer in those GoldenRod filter housings; they have so many advantages that is hard to list them all.
I have one on my truck, ahead of all the other filters and separators, and I have not had a plugged fuel filter in years; before I installed the GoldenRod, having to replace a filter on the side of the road was an all too common event.
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Put the elbow in. The Golden rod type filters filter out the larger particals. The plastic bowl will discolor in a year or so. It will eventually get brittle and sometimes sieze to the housing. Just my experience at changing them for the farmers in the 15 years I owned a farm fuel business. Did you buy a Pre Vent style filler cap and put on the tank? Do not buy cheap truck stop #2 diesel fuel. It does not have the additives in it to keep algie from growing on it. Buy a premium grade #2 fuel. I sold millions of gallons of both types in those years. Premium will cost you a few cents more per gallon but it is well worth it.
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