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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote klinemar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 11:41pm
I was a Dairy Farmer for 35 years and yes I know what tastes like! There are a great many unknowns and many claim settled science. My father never wore any type of protective equipment when loading the sprayer and I caught him once digging insecticide out of the applicator boxes on the corn planter with his bare hands which always had cuts or scrapes on them. He developed Parkinson's Disease but his symptoms were different from normal Parkinson Patients. After many Doctor visits a Neurologist determined Chemical Parkinson's. I have been tested for Parkinson Markers and do not have them.Each individual is different and to say a certain chemical or hazard can effect us all the same is wrong . On the other hand my Father was a prime example of how not to handle Farm Chemicals and Insecticides! I have know people who smoked their entire adult life and lived to a ripe old age. One of my favorite stories is of the life long vegetarian who was killed walking across the street by an Oscar Meyer Hot Dog Truck! As for Effeminate Men Lonn I worked with a man at MDOT who claimed his daughter got large breasts from drinking milk with BST in it! She also got pregnant but that happened the old fashioned healthy way !
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jaybmiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jul 2018 at 5:54am
JC... I always wondered why the farmer who had HIS fields  CONTAMINATED by Monsanto product SUE big M. seems to me a smart, thirsty lawyer could make a case... but... maybe it's a David vs Goliath, cept here, Goliath always wins ?

I also do NOT understand HOW DNA can be copyrighted and become property of chemical companies. I read somewhere that 25% of human DNA is OWNED by corporations !
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DMiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jul 2018 at 7:47am
The main point of contention to most of these cases is the lack of numbers. A few hundred to a few thousand odd cases not centralized, not clustered in hundreds or even dozens for all the millions of people using the materials. Some have allergic reactions to small things, others not do we make everyone wear a bubble suit because they MIGHT be susceptible to a material out of ALL materials?

Know a number of people that NEVER smoked, never lit up any form of tobacco or pot, avoided those smoking to limit second hand smoke chances, never around anything more than household cleaners and developed lung cancer, know a number of women that did not use tanning beds, could not EVER remember getting a severe sunburn yet have skin cancers, what do we blame there? Some diseases are NOT man made material caused, some are inherent some are genetic some just happen.


I have to note as is a bit scary, in our little region we see a number of Down's Syndrome babies, the genetic pool here is not as expansive as most would consider where a great deal of families are as intertwined as fourth generation but do not share common names or surnames or even a genealogic flowpath but do once out far enough carry the same genes. It is possible is NOT in the water but in the genetics.
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Doesn't the USDA claim Roundup is harmless? Doubt a money trail is there.
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Look at it this way. Is the human body ever naturally deficient in Glyphosate? if the answer is no than it's not good for you. We are made of the earth the same as plants and that is exactly why we are able to digest and sustain ourselves with plants. Round up kills plant tissue end of story as far as I'm concerned. They can do studies all day long year after year but I'll take the common sense approach instead.    
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DMiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jul 2018 at 10:34am
That is the issue Dennis, Glyphosate is noted as NOT Bio-Accumulating in Human or any Animal tissue, just plant matter, and as far as I am aware plants are not human, humans are not plants except maybe the few odd weeds out there.

http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/glyphogen.html

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"Is noted as not bio-accumulating..."
almost anything is possible, even manipulating genes to create something that never was...
 'We are what we eat' is and old saying. Old man drank some fuel oil, because his water pump had quit and he was very thirsty. Fuel oil is not plant matter, but yet the fuel oil in his system was prevalent for more than a year when he took a bath, there could be seen a film of oil on the water the care givers said. And caused the man to go into dementia real fast. I know this is not the same chemical as glyphosate is, but just showing that a body does absorb inert material too...

Mar 24, 2018 - Therefore, over the years of its use a global contamination has occurred, which ...

Another read... yea I know, it is not from some scientific journal.

100% of Wine Tested Showed Positive Results

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Los Angeles - Today, Moms Across America released  new results revealing that ten major California wines contained the chemical glyphosate, the declared “active” ingredient in Roundup weedkiller and 700 other glyphosate-based herbicides. Glyphosate, deemed a probable carcinogen by the World Health Organization in 2015, was found in all three categories of wine. This includes conventional (chemically grown), organic and biodynamic wine. The methodology used for the testing was the same as the beer tests in Germany, where all 14 beers tested positive for glyphosate. The highest conventional wine test result for glyphosate was 28 times higher than the glyphosate levels found in the organic and biodynamic wines.

View the report here: https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/yesmaam/pages/680/attachments/original/1458848651/3-24-16_GlyphosateContaminationinWineReport_(1).pdf?1458848651

Because Roundup/glyphosate is not permitted on organic or biodynamic vineyards, the results are unexpected and can only be explained by the drift of chemical sprays from neighboring vineyards. This could mean legal ramifications for the contamination and devaluation of another company’s product.

Zen Honeycutt, Director of Moms Across America, states “We have recently learned that the detection of glyphosate is an indicator of the presence of many other co-formulants in glyphosate-based herbicides which, combined, are 1000 times more toxic than glyphosate alone. French scientist Gilles-Éric Seralini and his team have also discovered that these co-formulants are also endocrine hormone disruptors, which can lead to breast cancer, miscarriages, birth defects and many other health issues.  There should be zero glyphosate and related chemicals in our wine, food or personal products.”

Consumers may wonder how Roundup/glyphosate is getting into their wine.  Roundup/glyphosate is sprayed every year in conventional vineyards. A 1-2 ft strip is sprayed on either side of the grape vines which are planted in rows, to kill weeds when the vines are dormant in late winter or early spring. According to plant pathologist, Don Huber from Purdue University, the vine stems are inevitably sprayed in this process and the Roundup is likely absorbed through the roots and bark of the vines from where it is translocated into the leaves and grapes.

All the wines tested were from the Napa Valley, Sonoma and Mendocino County areas. According to the CA Dept of Health, breast cancer rates in the Sonoma, Napa and Mendocino counties is 10 to 20 percent higher than the national average.  700 lawsuits are currently pending against Monsanto for the connection between non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma and Roundup.

Currently the FDA does not require end product testing or labeling for pesticides.  Therefore the public is unable to know the type or amount of any pesticides that are present in the wines.

Moms Across America and other groups call for the protection of organic and biodynamic brands, farm workers and consumers by requesting that all food producers STOP spraying toxic chemicals on their crops.

Contact:

Blair Fitzgibbon  202-503-6141                    

Zen Honeycutt zenhoneycutt@gmail.com

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DMiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jul 2018 at 1:44pm
This is a similar report on reports of your type:

https://www.innovationfiles.org/points-to-consider-unfounded-claims-of-glyphosate-accumulation-in-breast-milk/

Found to be less than scientific and also less than based. Glyphosate does NOT bioaccumulate retain nor transposition in plants as it does degenerate at a significant rate of speed. Does not soil accumulate thus the need to reapply to New growth plants.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3479986/
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Originally posted by DMiller DMiller wrote:

That is the issue Dennis, Glyphosate is noted as NOT Bio-Accumulating in Human or any Animal tissue, just plant matter, and as far as I am aware plants are not human, humans are not plants except maybe the few odd weeds out there.

http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/glyphogen.html
Ahhh but see Human beings are made of organic matter and so are plants. In fact both when decomposed will turn back into the earth they came from and not only that but both will even enrich the earth they were made from. I understand what their argument is. My point is I don't believe them. I choose to look at it like this; If it can kill your food it's not doing you any good either.  

Edited by Dennis IL - 14 Jul 2018 at 4:19pm
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