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Got the HD6G pretty much put back together. Bought some new batteries but cannot seem to get the generator to work. I had the generator checked at a shop, it works fine. Strung all new wires, hooked everything up correctly.My question ?
Is this charging system worth trouble shooting and fixing or should I just get a One Wire Self Exciting 24v Alternator and be done?
Ebay has them for about $100.

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Jay Tyrrell Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 28 Jul 2011 Location: Staples Points: 65	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jay Tyrrell Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Electrical issues Posted: 16 May 2012 at 8:57pm
	Got the HD6G pretty much put back together. Bought some new batteries but cannot seem to get the generator to work. I had the generator checked at a shop, it works fine. Strung all new wires, hooked everything up correctly. My question ? Is this charging system worth trouble shooting and fixing or should I just get a One Wire Self Exciting 24v Alternator and be done? Ebay has them for about $100.

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Coke-in-MN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Afton MN Points: 41198	Post Options Post Reply Quote Coke-in-MN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2012 at 10:10pm
	Unsure if they use a cut-out relay or a actual voltage regulator, but think for the $100 I would do a little more checking of machine first , these links are to Chev page but all the ideas will work with any generator system. If that fails you should be able to pick up a 24V Delco Alt at bone yard locally , off heavy truck as many used them. http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/electrical/49dr324/1g1001.htm http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/electrical/49dr324/index.htm
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HD6 Merv Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Access Joined: 03 Aug 2010 Location: New Zealand Points: 476	Post Options Post Reply Quote HD6 Merv Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 May 2012 at 2:20am
	They use a voltage regulator; have just been down this road myself. If you ground the field wire with engine running the generator should charge at max. proving regulator is the problem. On my regulator i dressed tthe points up with some 400 grit sandpaper and it all worked; overhauled generator to start with. They only put out about 10 amps charge. But if i was lucky enough to have found a self regulating alternator for $100 i would have gone that way; that setup down at the bottom of the world here would be more like $500 for us ! Cheers merv
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Ian Beale Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 03 Oct 2011 Location: New South Wales Points: 933	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ian Beale Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 May 2012 at 5:09am
	Merv, Our local bloke here (OZ) can do a new 24volt Bosch for about $300 amd will suggest the size of boat for a use for your generator. Not $100 I admit!

Jay Tyrrell Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 28 Jul 2011 Location: Staples Points: 65	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jay Tyrrell Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 May 2012 at 8:42pm
	Great link Coke, Merv, I'm gonna try what you said a ground the field wire. Now on a 24volt generator I should get 24 volts right? Or doesn't it work that way?

Dozer Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 16 Aug 2011 Location: SW New York Points: 689	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dozer Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 May 2012 at 5:37am
	HD6G's are positive ground. My HD6G has the batteries wired negative ground. A previous owner replaced the negative wire to the starter motor with a red wire when he/she wired the batteries. It is my opinion that it does NOT make any difference except at the ammeter because the voltage regulator is polarized by jumpering bat to gen. Am I correct?

orangeman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 1681	Post Options Post Reply Quote orangeman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 May 2012 at 9:57am
	Much of AC's equipment was positive ground. Allis Electrical Engineering Division has some theoretical basis for their decision. Believe it is available on an internet search. May be of use. Good Luck - Orangeman

HD6 Merv Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Access Joined: 03 Aug 2010 Location: New Zealand Points: 476	Post Options Post Reply Quote HD6 Merv Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 May 2012 at 6:06pm
	Hi Dozer; yes believe you are correct, my EP wasc hanged to negative earth bofore i got it. Generator just needs polarising like you said. Mine allworks ok now charges about 10 amps. Admit a alternator would be better. Mac has altered several of his machines this way and i have a D4D alterd also. Believe alternators might be better for batterys; but in my case i went for the easiest cheapest option. yes i have deep pockets and short fingers ! ! Merv
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