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Pgriswd
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Joined: 25 Mar 2025 Location: South Carolina Points: 25 |
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Topic: H3 StarterPosted: 21 hours 21 minutes ago at 5:59pm |
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I have a 1961 H3 and it has broken the nose off the starter twice. Does any know of a problem with this and what I can do about it?
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DrAllis
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Posted: 21 hours 17 minutes ago at 6:03pm |
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A bad/worn out ring gear on the flywheel, OR ignition timing set too far advanced, OR BOTH.
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Pgriswd
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Posted: 20 hours 50 minutes ago at 6:30pm |
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Thanks dr Allis
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Les Kerf
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Posted: 6 hours 3 minutes ago at 9:17am |
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The mechanical advance mechanism inside the distributor can cause the ignition to be too far advanced during starting if the advance mechanism is sticky due to corrosion and/or worn parts.
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Coke-in-MN
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Posted: 5 hours 46 minutes ago at 9:34am |
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My 715-B TLB with Perkins engine has broken the nose cone of 3 starters over last 5 years . Seems starter drive was not moving forward far enough to fully engage ring gear -putting strain on outboard bushing in nosecone of starter .
Worn bushings in starter can also allow movement to misalign armature . Just bought a import starter (NEW) for less than cost of rebuilding the Delco starter again. Edited by Coke-in-MN - 5 hours 45 minutes ago at 9:35am |
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Pgriswd
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Posted: 5 hours 34 minutes ago at 9:46am |
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Thanks Les and Coke. I checked the ring gear DR Allis recommended and seems fine. I think I have a timing issue and will work on that next
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DrAllis
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Posted: 4 hours 36 minutes ago at 10:44am |
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Things that I take for granted and fail to express. When setting the ignition timing with a timing light, your goal is F-25 or FIRE or 25 degrees BTDC at full throttle. One should always idle down to 400 RPM (after getting timing set) to check the centrifugal advances operation. At very slow idle it should be at or very near TDC. This verifies that the advance is working correctly. Also, the ring gear might look just fine where you looked at it. Every engine stops in one of two places. So, there will be two places of wear, 180 degrees from each other. The rest of the ring gear can and will look very good, but may be very bad in these two suspect places. Don't be deceived until you roll in completely around and look at all of the ring gear.
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