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    Posted: 8 hours 14 minutes ago at 3:00pm
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Hope everyone is well, I haven't done much but read and listen here lately!

I have an odd situation. I'm helping to clean up an old dairy farm and have come across what I believe to be the cleaner acid used to flush the pipes after milking. 

The labels are SHOT and best I can say is some of it came from Westfalia (now defunct?) I can post some photos if it will help, but they are about 15 gallon jugs of the stuff. 

Local 'haz mat' recyclers (the ones run by the state where you bring your stuff to a collection center) hasn't been too helpful, and they consider what I have "industrial quantities"

all of that said, how do you get rid of it? water it down? mix it somehow? I want to do the responsible thing, but I just keep hitting a dead end

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Us there another dairy around?  You might try giving it away to them, or maybe a for free ad on craig's list.  I doubt the acid is very strong, stuff I am familiar with isn't much stronger than bleach...
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Do you know any trucker that has an aluminum trailer? That pipeline acid works great cleaning aluminum. 
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https://proton-direct.co.uk/public/2018/07/Milk-Line-Cleaner-JAV002.pdf
Above is the MSDS sheet for caustic base 
 By listing name of company and if acid or base solution you can probably find similar product . 
  IT looks like it has some worth for resale - but finding that buyer - or place to dispose properly - ???  Around here we have a recycling center - run by county that takes items , from paint to household materials - now 3 jugs at a time might be household rather then industrial 
   MSDS for acid base cleaner 
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/documents/sds/sds_hp1510011.pdf?srsltid=AfmBOopIkxNFEJfMm9YkJE3uqq0MFPVx4Iokq4DO_uMlSX6YQy_mUcAa


Edited by Coke-in-MN - 7 hours 7 minutes ago at 4:07pm
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Westfalia, westfalia- surge are all now part of GEA farm technologies.
Acid rinse is mostly phosphoric acid. 
 I suppose you could use it as rust remover. 

 I should add here never ever mix with bleach, clorine gas can be a killer.


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Phosphoric Acid in a strong mix can etch glass , in full strength it will eat through bottle right at top of air liquid line - use to use it to clean floors in coating area and left a container sit 1/2 full , next day went to pick it up and only had top half of jug .
 Bad stuff in high strength as will eat into calcium - like bones if you get it on hands .
Milk is one of the neutralizers for contamination .
 It will also etch Titanium metal which resists most acids (in high strength)
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Whatever you do, DO NOT MIX IT ANYTHING except water.
When say ‘cleaning up an old dairy’ do you mean a dairy farm? Or a dairy processing plant?
If it’s a dairy farm, and the pipeline system is intact, run a clean cycle or two thru it and see what happens.
The sink where the milking machines set in, fill that basin with hot water, and a cup or two of cleaner, do not mix from different containers.
I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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