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V Belt pulley for my hand crank meat grinder?

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    Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 4:28pm
I am trying to figure a way to get a 1/2 V belt pulley attached to my meat grinder.  As you know that is a tapered shaft for the old crank handle to mount on.

I have found  manufactured ones in the $75 dollar range

Anyone seen or have any ideas on how to lash up my 1/2 " ID pulley to the tapered shaft of my grinder?  thanx
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Maybe grind the taper flat,then shim  between shaft and pulley ?

I know 'fun' but may work

OR

taper the pulley ID. Use rat tail file.

either way, slow and steady will win !
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Better options already suggested, personally I'd weld her up & move along but that makes it less reversible than tapering the pulley ID.

Other possible option, if shaft end is threaded, would be to "shim"/pack the outer end of the shaft to the pulley using soft wood squeezed in with bolt/washer. Horrible lash up, but ultimately leaving machine & pulley unmolested.


Edited by ekjdm14 - 07 Dec 2024 at 5:27pm
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How bout a tapered bushing and larger bore pulley?
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i did that on a corn grinder... pulled the shaft and turned it down on the lathe... another option is to weld a strap on the shaft that you can either BOLT a pulley or handle to it...

biggest problem i had was the SPEED of the grinder... seems like the corn grinder by hand you rotate about 120 RPM.... Motor turns 1750 or 3500 rpm... thats a LOT OF PULLEY diameter to get down to speed.
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thanks for the input Steve

I know about the speed from past experience.  I plan to cut that with a jack shaft if I get to that point  No lathe here, still scratching my shiny head.  Confused

Just springing for the money is looking better all the time.  Ouch


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C clamp it down good to the bed ways of your lathe, get somebody to hold axle so it don't run crazy then chuck up a turning tool and turn, taper, knurl, do whatever trips your hammer with it. I learned that at the Wuhan Virology Institute. Doctor Fauci presiding. Actually find a way to turn it and file it flat.
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IIRR, the blade end of the augur is a straight, true surface, chuck that into a cordless drill, then turn slowly, and grind the drive end with a bench grinder...

If that blade end is square, not round, use a 8 point socket, to adapt the to the augur to the drill...Wink
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re: speed...
how many HP do you need ? What RPM is 'good' ?
look for a small motor with gearbox,use LOVEJOY coupling to connect.
maybe add variable speed to the unit ?
a foot pedal might be nice..
possible option, a REVERSIBLE  motor..might be a nice.
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if you can figure out how to get a pulley or sprocket on it, you might want to think about a gear reduction motor to power it. 

We do pretty extensive Halloween and Christmas (decorating) display. I built an 8' Ferris wheel for our display using a 2 RPM motor. It turns the Ferris wheel about 8 hours a day for a couple months every year. Surplus Center has been an inexpensive source. Here are a couple examples.




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ii acutally used a 1/2 HP motor with a 6 :1 gearbox off a old electric hospital bed... something like this..


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Before going to all that work I would consider purchasing an electric grinder from Cabela’s or BassPro and save the hand crank unit for quick jobs. I have two of the hand crank units that belonged to my Mom but I picked up a used Hobart for larger jobs. 
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Originally posted by Hubert (Ga)engine7 Hubert (Ga)engine7 wrote:

Before going to all that work I would consider purchasing an electric grinder from Cabela’s or BassPro and save the hand crank unit for quick jobs. I have two of the hand crank units that belonged to my Mom but I picked up a used Hobart for larger jobs. 

Yeah, those old grinders are not sealed well, at all around the drive end of the grinder.  If you do get a new chinese one, be sure to order a half dozen or so of the nylon bushings, so you have them on hand.  As for the size of the pulley, 12-15 inch on the grinder, and the smallest possible on the motor...Wink
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The ONE 'trick' that my neighbour REFUSES to do is...

grind meat 'coarse' THEN grind it 'fine'. She figures she can just grind 'fine'.

well after ME replacing busted parts(gears) TWICE, I gave up telling her HOW she's supposed to work her machine.....
sigh......
yup, last week it came over 'won't work', gee, let's see....yup , SAME busted gears, oh well.. I can't fix, have one of your sons order them from New York state as NONE in Canada,eh !!!

I remember 'double grinding' when I worked part time in grocery store meat department so there MUST be something right about the procedure.
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Bought a Chard from Fleet Farm 4 or 5 years ago. Yeah, made in China but not unhappy with it yet.
I like course grind for chili and such but prefer a double grind if doing burgers or tacos
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