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Scott B 
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Posted: 26 Jul 2024 at 9:01pm |
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Could use some help. My SIL and daughter just purchased a 35 acre property and have agreed to let s neighbor bring his cattle in on pasture. They've worked out a little deal to trade the grazing in exchange for some property work for now.
But the long term question is what's a good per acre rate for the grazing rights? Is it per cow per acre? Is it paid monthly or a lump sum etc.
Think for sure some of you on here have experience and could help frame up what they can expect. Thanks in advance!
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Lars(wi)
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Posted: 26 Jul 2024 at 9:52pm |
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Is all the 35 acres pasture? Is there a water source, such as creek or stream? Any buildings on this land? How good are the fences?
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Posted: 26 Jul 2024 at 10:51pm |
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Thx Lars. Only about 15 acres being used. They strung an electric fence on one side but not the best. The other three sides have solid fence. There are some small stock ponds and the guy is also currently hauling water to a stock water tank
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Posted: 26 Jul 2024 at 11:37pm |
A trip to the local County Extension office or an online search should be able to find a list of area rates for types/terms of rent on local pasture. For 10+ years we rented about 320 acre of Loess hills pasture @ X-$ per (cow-calf pair or bull) per day. In a dry year if we brought hay over the rent was cut in half per day while feeding hay. It was in 200- & 120+ Acres, we rotated parcels every 2-3 weeks.
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Posted: 27 Jul 2024 at 6:58am |
re: They strung an electric fence on one side but not the best.
hmm, WHO is going to go after the critters when they escape ? A week ago there was a roaming Texas long horned steer 2 streets down from me ! Wondered WHERE he came from,as we're a 'residential neighbourhood'. even made the local news.
You should probably have 'something in writing' that YOU are NOT responsible for 'any and all damages,arising from or associated with, any or all cattle( steers,cows, bulls, etc.) that came from your property'.......
You might try a first year free deal,just to see how it goes ??
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Posted: 27 Jul 2024 at 7:42am |
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What about the other 20 acres? Not usable?
Is the land currently pasture, tillable?
If only 15 acre parcel, I hope there is not too many head of cattle on it, otherwise it be a ‘dirt lot’ is short order.
From my perspective, have it in writing what both parties responsibility’s are, and the exchange for work or labor, may be good enough for the first year.
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Posted: 27 Jul 2024 at 8:21am |
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If I were them , I,d just settle on a lump sum- per month or year, trading labor etc never works out;
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Posted: 07 Aug 2024 at 5:24am |
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Thanks for the info, I will keep it in mind.
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Posted: 07 Aug 2024 at 6:37am |
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The extension agent suggestion is a good one- our leases are calculated on an animal unit month
(Aum) but that is very dependent on forage. We have large problems with west coast people moving in and grazing “the way it was done back where I come from.”
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Posted: 07 Aug 2024 at 6:52am |
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This is a question that also intrigues me. We purchased some ground last year that is currently in crops as investment property. There is some of the area I would like to allow a family member to rent for his feeder cattle while his property regenerates with a hay crop for his own feed. There is a creek, was once a house there, and I would erect some type of shelter for animals if needed as a temporary measure of about five years.
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