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 Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 8:46am |
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The work into studying and developing MRNA type vaccine began years ago. MERS and other outbreaks sparked the need. Doctors and scientists are always studying such things, rarely does it make any headlines. Another thing, at the scientific level work is highly shared: papers are published, conferences are held, teams of people research and these people move around.
We heard about "rumblings" in China here at work in December of 19, then really heard vague but ominous rumblings at a meeting for employees by ownership in early Feb. Yes, we have a site over there. The owners didn't know a lot, because they couldn't get a lot, was hard for the people in China to really communicate. All we knew, was it was something very different, the streets were empty, they were being locked down, and our contacts didn't know what was happening or for how long. Remember how they were building 3 hospitals in a few weeks time?? Our owner at the end of the meeting simply said, "You don't shut down that big of a chunk of the global economy without huge ramifications."
So how early do you suppose President Trump knew of such things? When he cut loose with operation warp speed, the vaccine final developments and rollouts happened pretty fast. A DNA sequence of a Virus can be determined in practically no time by the computing power we have, with that, the MRNA can be developed to fight it. It really didn't take that long to put the final pieces of the puzzle together with the easing of regulations and the huge influx of money and other governmental support. It isn't like they opened a puzzle box and there was no picture to go by.
I have been around this type of research most of my life, I myself am not a PhD, don't even have a BS, but I have watched brainiacs, real propellerheads, struggle for years on such stuff.....it's not as easy as you make it out to be. Yes, they could have come up with something that looks promising, but, with out the exhaustive testing, which the government regulations that were dropped, required, no one, can be sure of it's long term effectiveness OR possible side effects. Could it cause the body to spontaneously start growing abnormal cells (cancer)? probably not, but....... Shucks, the ramifications could not show up until the next generation.....that has happened! I myself am convinced SOME were more knowledgeable on this virus, than the rest of the world, which probably gave the scientists and drug companies a head start.
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Just how did I say or imply it was easy? If I say numerous braniacs have been working on it for years, (decades say some), how does that say I think it was simple?
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Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 8:52am |
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Not so much a pandemic as a global bio war brought upon by the Chinese. |
IF so....it's still a pandemic caused by their virus. Pandemic is a statistical term.....there goes that word again!
The Chinese doing this on purpose or happy accident theory should be investigated thoroughly (though honestly I don't know how or what good that will do).
But in the end, we have to deal with this medically, regardless of where it came from.
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Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 9:16am |
I guess what bothers me the most (that no one is saying here) is that statistics are saying that people are divided, about getting immunized or not getting immunized, so distinctly according to political persuasion.
This is a virus that has escalated into a pandemic. Politics should have nothing to do with getting immunized or not getting immunized.
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Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 9:22am |
Tbone95 wrote:
LouSWPA wrote:
Tbone95 wrote:
The work into studying and developing MRNA type vaccine began years ago. MERS and other outbreaks sparked the need. Doctors and scientists are always studying such things, rarely does it make any headlines. Another thing, at the scientific level work is highly shared: papers are published, conferences are held, teams of people research and these people move around.
We heard about "rumblings" in China here at work in December of 19, then really heard vague but ominous rumblings at a meeting for employees by ownership in early Feb. Yes, we have a site over there. The owners didn't know a lot, because they couldn't get a lot, was hard for the people in China to really communicate. All we knew, was it was something very different, the streets were empty, they were being locked down, and our contacts didn't know what was happening or for how long. Remember how they were building 3 hospitals in a few weeks time?? Our owner at the end of the meeting simply said, "You don't shut down that big of a chunk of the global economy without huge ramifications."
So how early do you suppose President Trump knew of such things? When he cut loose with operation warp speed, the vaccine final developments and rollouts happened pretty fast. A DNA sequence of a Virus can be determined in practically no time by the computing power we have, with that, the MRNA can be developed to fight it. It really didn't take that long to put the final pieces of the puzzle together with the easing of regulations and the huge influx of money and other governmental support. It isn't like they opened a puzzle box and there was no picture to go by.
I have been around this type of research most of my life, I myself am not a PhD, don't even have a BS, but I have watched brainiacs, real propellerheads, struggle for years on such stuff.....it's not as easy as you make it out to be. Yes, they could have come up with something that looks promising, but, with out the exhaustive testing, which the government regulations that were dropped, required, no one, can be sure of it's long term effectiveness OR possible side effects. Could it cause the body to spontaneously start growing abnormal cells (cancer)? probably not, but....... Shucks, the ramifications could not show up until the next generation.....that has happened! I myself am convinced SOME were more knowledgeable on this virus, than the rest of the world, which probably gave the scientists and drug companies a head start.
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Just how did I say or imply it was easy? If I say numerous braniacs have been working on it for years, (decades say some), how does that say I think it was simple?
I took it as implied, based on this statement: "When he cut loose with operation warp speed, the vaccine final developments and rollouts happened pretty fast. A DNA sequence of a Virus can be determined in practically no time by the computing power we have, with that, the MRNA can be developed to fight it. It really didn't take that long to put the final pieces of the puzzle together with the easing of regulations and the huge influx of money and other governmental support."
If I misunderstood, my apologies
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Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 9:37am |
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I guess what bothers me the most (that no one is saying here) is that statistics are saying that people are divided, about getting immunized or not getting immunized, so distinctly according to political persuasion.
This is a virus that has escalated into a pandemic. Politics should have nothing to do with getting immunized or not getting immunized.
I'm pretty much in agreement with you on that. However, it has it's roots in politics, so much misinformation has been distributed to the public resulting from politics, that it is hard to separate truth from fiction. It's very origins is a good example, the masks is another, and then we discover that the very 'expert' called upon to guide us out of this is likely part of the reason we have it to begin with....it's hard to trust anyone, or anything.
Obviously, with respect to a 'cure', it doesn't matter where it came from, but when those that are providing the 'cure', are the ones that lied to you about its origin, its hard to trust the 'cure'. Or, when we discover the lying weazel that is supposedly leading the nation to a 'cure' was involved in it's origin, it's hard to trust the 'cure'.
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Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 11:46am |
LouSWPA wrote:
Tbone95 wrote:
LouSWPA wrote:
Tbone95 wrote:
The work into studying and developing MRNA type vaccine began years ago. MERS and other outbreaks sparked the need. Doctors and scientists are always studying such things, rarely does it make any headlines. Another thing, at the scientific level work is highly shared: papers are published, conferences are held, teams of people research and these people move around.
We heard about "rumblings" in China here at work in December of 19, then really heard vague but ominous rumblings at a meeting for employees by ownership in early Feb. Yes, we have a site over there. The owners didn't know a lot, because they couldn't get a lot, was hard for the people in China to really communicate. All we knew, was it was something very different, the streets were empty, they were being locked down, and our contacts didn't know what was happening or for how long. Remember how they were building 3 hospitals in a few weeks time?? Our owner at the end of the meeting simply said, "You don't shut down that big of a chunk of the global economy without huge ramifications."
So how early do you suppose President Trump knew of such things? When he cut loose with operation warp speed, the vaccine final developments and rollouts happened pretty fast. A DNA sequence of a Virus can be determined in practically no time by the computing power we have, with that, the MRNA can be developed to fight it. It really didn't take that long to put the final pieces of the puzzle together with the easing of regulations and the huge influx of money and other governmental support. It isn't like they opened a puzzle box and there was no picture to go by.
I have been around this type of research most of my life, I myself am not a PhD, don't even have a BS, but I have watched brainiacs, real propellerheads, struggle for years on such stuff.....it's not as easy as you make it out to be. Yes, they could have come up with something that looks promising, but, with out the exhaustive testing, which the government regulations that were dropped, required, no one, can be sure of it's long term effectiveness OR possible side effects. Could it cause the body to spontaneously start growing abnormal cells (cancer)? probably not, but....... Shucks, the ramifications could not show up until the next generation.....that has happened! I myself am convinced SOME were more knowledgeable on this virus, than the rest of the world, which probably gave the scientists and drug companies a head start.
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Just how did I say or imply it was easy? If I say numerous braniacs have been working on it for years, (decades say some), how does that say I think it was simple?
I took it as implied, based on this statement: "When he cut loose with operation warp speed, the vaccine final developments and rollouts happened pretty fast. A DNA sequence of a Virus can be determined in practically no time by the computing power we have, with that, the MRNA can be developed to fight it. It really didn't take that long to put the final pieces of the puzzle together with the easing of regulations and the huge influx of money and other governmental support."
If I misunderstood, my apologies
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Guess it depends on what the meaning of final pieces is. 
So, just for kicks, turn it around then. If what I say is not true, than what is? Meaning, if they haven't been working on this for years, then it was developed overnight? Which would mean it must have been easy? OR, better yet, fit it to the grand conspiracy. They had prior knowledge to what it was.....of course that again would mean they were working on it for a long time. Or it was easy. Hmm.
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Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 1:38pm |
On March 15 when we had a few cases in the US and they shut down NYC, within 24 HOURS, they put the Moderna vaccine into TEST PEOPLE.... WITHIN 1 DAY ???
OBVIOUSLY they had been working on it... But SPECIFIC TO WUHAN FLU ??? Makes you wonder if the guys that DEVELOPED the mRNA, ALSO DEVELOPED the WUHAN FLU virus ??
Seems more MORE THAN A COINCIDENCE this all happened with a few hours/ days of each other ??? -------------------
The vaccine is called mRNA-1273 and was developed by NIAID scientists and their collaborators at the biotechnology company Moderna, Inc., based in Cambridge, Massachusetts. The Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI) supported the manufacturing of the vaccine candidate for the Phase 1 clinical trial. “Finding a safe and effective vaccine to prevent infection with SARS-CoV-2 is an urgent public health priority,” said NIAID Director Anthony S. Fauci, M.D. “This Phase 1 study, launched in record speed, is an important first step toward achieving that goal.”
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Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 1:48pm |
Look at the TOTAL number of cases in the US by March 16, 2020 --- less than 5,000.
and the TOTAL DEATHS were less than 50 ......
And THAT DAY the "VACCINE " goes into testing ???.... Something dont add up.
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Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 2:09pm |
steve(ill) wrote:
On March 15 when we had a few cases in the US and they shut down NYC, within 24 HOURS, they put the Moderna vaccine into TEST PEOPLE.... WITHIN 1 DAY ???
OBVIOUSLY they had been working on it... But SPECIFIC TO WUHAN FLU ??? Makes you wonder if the guys that DEVELOPED the mRNA, ALSO DEVELOPED the WUHAN FLU virus ??
Seems more MORE THAN A COINCIDENCE this all happened with a few hours/ days of each other ??? -------------------
The vaccine is called mRNA-1273 and was developed by NIAID scientists and their collaborators at the biotechnology company Moderna, Inc., based in Cambridge, Massachusetts. The Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI) supported the manufacturing of the vaccine candidate for the Phase 1 clinical trial. “Finding a safe and effective vaccine to prevent infection with SARS-CoV-2 is an urgent public health priority,” said NIAID Director Anthony S. Fauci, M.D. “This Phase 1 study, launched in record speed, is an important first step toward achieving that goal.”
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That is pretty wild. I never saw/heard anything about vaccines and trials in March 2020, but OK.
To comment on your question though, "Specific to Wuhan Flu", Specific to Coronaviruses, specific to prior outbreaks of SARS, yes, that is what they were working on, though as far as I've ever seen, not specific to Covid 19. But highly related.
I also remember hearing that the Genome had been decoded by a company in CA early in 2020, seems before March, but I don't remember for sure.
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Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 2:12pm |
steve(ill) wrote:
Look at the TOTAL number of cases in the US by March 16, 2020 --- less than 5,000.
and the TOTAL DEATHS were less than 50 ......
And THAT DAY the "VACCINE " goes into testing ???.... Something dont add up.
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Agreed, other than what information was coming out of China and to whom and what of that we the people saw. Again, remember the footage of building 3 huge hospitals in mere weeks? I know our company contacts over there were, well, pretty dang terrified and spoke ominously of what was going on.
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Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 2:13pm |
Thats my point.... Comes to USA in Jan- Feb 2020. and by MID MARCH they got the "FIX"..... WOW are we GOOD !!!
Or could it be as the WUHAN was being developed in CHINA, there was VACCINE development going on at the same time to fight it ?????
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Yes, I get that. Me too, that's what I was saying when responding to Lou,.....in a joking manner but still that was what I was saying.
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Either way, Old FAUCI is azz hole deep in the making of the VIRUS and the VACCINE ! ... Going back YEARS, not months.
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Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 4:46pm |
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Either way, Old FAUCI is azz hole deep in the making of the VIRUS and the VACCINE ! ... Going back YEARS, not months. |
So……it took a long time, not easy, ok Lou? 
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Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 5:08pm |
Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome is a Covid based Virus, similar symptoms and results on those with compromised health conditions as CV19 alone.
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Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 5:59pm |
Just saying............
They were doing "BAT TESTING" on SARS in the WUHAN LAB. Fauci was a supporter of the TESTNG. Somehow SARS got to the public in WUHAN "did it come from the lab "... only an idiot says no. There was a "cure" for the SARS being developed late last year ( probably longer) FAUCI is also in charge of the lab doing the SARS vaccine The week that WUHAN became rampant in the US , the VACCINE testing trials started 
WOW... such "GOOD TIMING" on our part... surely no coincidence
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Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 6:18pm |
my problem is i try adding 2 + 2 and i KEEP COMING UP WITH 4 !!
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Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 6:33pm |
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A "blanket question" to the posters of the "YT" stats, did you guys get the vaccine or not ??
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Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 6:51pm |
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Seems I referred to that a bit ago…
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Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 6:53pm |
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A "blanket question" to the posters of the "YT" stats, did you guys get the vaccine or not ?? |
Ya, Dave’s wife told him to, jay didn’t answer.
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