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FREEDGUY
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Posted: 21 Jan 2021 at 5:54pm |
Now that engine hours can be had on the "info" center , what would any of you guys feel as a buying guide ? Thanks
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thendrix
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I still go by miles. Hours rack up when you're idling not just moving
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jaybmiller
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well they _should_ give you hours, idling, hours <30MPH, hours<60MPH. heck give a fancy screen full of colourful graphs..... yet more useless 'hightech' stuff like the driver controlled USB ports....
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steve(ill)
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Hours are only useful for something like a bucket truck or electrical line truck that drives to a site, sets and runs at idle - half throttle for 5-6 hours, then drives back to the shop.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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FREEDGUY
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Jay, this is on a '05 Ford that doesn't quite have the "screen" that your thinking of !! Yes, the dash of a '18 or newer is probably more sophisticated than an F 15 fighter !
Steve, is there a "downfall" to the engine hours in the scenario that you described as far as engine longevity ? Edited by FREEDGUY - 21 Jan 2021 at 7:18pm |
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steve(ill)
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Well, i have seen Division ( electric company) that have 5 or 10 ton trucks that might be 12 years old and have 40,000 miles on them .... but them might have been running 1500 rpm 7 hours a day, 5 days a week, 52 weeks out of the year, for 10 years..... so your getting a truck with the frame / body having 40K miles, and the motor having 20,000 hours.... Good ? Bad ? ..... just something to keep in mind.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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steve(ill)
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Have seen 3/4 - 1 ton trucks at construction sites that set there and idle all day long with the air conditioner on... guys taking breaks, eating lunch, radio , generator use... etc....... same idea.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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shameless dude
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for past 10 years or so ford's computers in their vehicles run up miles while they are idleing. it won't show on the odometer but shows on the vehicles computer, they use that for warranty work/claims. i don't know if GM or others do the same thing or not.
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Lars(wi)
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My wife’s Ford Explorer has 99,500 miles, dashboard computer shows 795 driving hours. Something don’t jive with those numbers.
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I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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Dakota Dave
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Just go by the oil change light. The ecm takes ideling in account in the change time if it idles slot itll signal a change as early as 2000 miles trucks that do alot of highway miles it go aslong as 10000 miles between changes
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Hubert (Ga)engine7
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Tell your wife that she drives too fast.
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Lars(wi)
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She is a lead foot, and a tailgater, but she ain’t that fast.
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I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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SteveM C/IL
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I'd rather have one that ran for hours on end vs started and shut off repeatedly.
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FREEDGUY
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I just toggled the dash on my '05 Ford super duty and had 8250 hours/182,000 miles. I'm the second owner and the original owner used it as a plow/salt spreader unit
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Dave H
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i have let mine run al night before when hooked up to the camper. Kinda like an over powered generator. I have installed one of those gizmos that sets the idle to 900 when I flip the switch. Seems the last long night the ole 6.2 used a 1/4 tank of gas, and that is a BIG tank. |
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FREEDGUY
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38 gallon tank by any chance ??
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Dave H
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38 gallon tank by any chance ?? I thought it was only 37.
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HD6GTOM
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FYI. My pickup has 522 hours on it and 19825 miles, maybe 30 minutes idle time. Bought new July 5 2019. All highway miles. Do hours v/s miles depend on rest end ratio?
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steve(ill)
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Tom.... 19,825 miles divided by 522 hours means you average SPEED is 40 MPH on the road.... that takes into account any IDLE TIME, setting at stop lights, etc.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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DMiller
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In heavy equipment and trucks One hour equated to 50 engine operation miles. Idling was harder on engines due to running cold, carbon buildup, lower oil flows across lubricated parts. That has been a standard for maintenance to me since 1975.
More Idle time and fewer miles is harder on a machine than running full out high miles full load.
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Tbone95
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Total agreement with DMiller. Base my tractor oil changes and such on that, back figure to cars and pickups, all about the same.
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NEVER green
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While idling is hard on engines, when running a turbo charged engine at full out under full load produces huge pressures that are very hard on an engine that manufactures must take into consideration. |
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DMiller
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Turbocharged engines are designed and built with that in mind, they routinely manage 6-900,000 miles before Overhaul. It is the sitting idling or just off idle slobbering that destroys and/or cokes up turbochargers.
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