This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity. | ||||||
The Forum | Parts and Services | Unofficial Allis Store | Tractor Shows | Serial Numbers | History |
Gleaner L4 Video |
Post Reply | Page <12 |
Author | ||
Lonn
Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29773 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
I'm almost positive Massey had nothing to do with the C62 other than it was sold in red. It's all Gleaner. Even where the cylinder is located is like the natural flow rotor location. I don't see a thing about it that looks like it came from a Massey.
Edited by Lonn - 11 Aug 2020 at 11:43am |
||
-- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... -
Wink I am a Russian Bot |
||
Sponsored Links | ||
tbran
Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Paris Tn Points: 3238 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
1. it was Gleaner - used the threshing grate /accel rolls etc.
2. After talking to a few old hands I remember the demise of the L4 - seems they didn't pay for the parts.... and Deutz Allis didn't have security filing on the the units produced. Thus credit was the demise... remember it was the '80's... Also the C62 was sold mainly in Canada - had a friend who was a dealer - really pitched a fit when they were discontinued. They had some initial belt seal issues but searching the service bulletins finds they were pretty update , trouble free.
|
||
When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money..
|
||
Lonn
Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29773 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
My sales brochure for the L4 is dated either 1990 or 1991 so they must have made them at least that long. Found a sales brochure on line just now that is dated 1991. Edited by Lonn - 11 Aug 2020 at 1:49pm |
||
-- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... -
Wink I am a Russian Bot |
||
FREEDGUY
Orange Level Access Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5391 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
Thanks for that reply farmboy . Like I mentioned, I've never ran wheat . Is the amount of "straw" a limiting factor as far as capacity ?
|
||
CrestonM
Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8357 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
Very interesting! My 1991 brochure (Probably the same as Lonn's) calls the company "The L4 Corporation". It says the factory in Mexico was a former joint venture partner with A-C, but at the time of the L4 was totally Mexican owned, and they had 10 years experience in manufacturing L3 combines (but 1991-1983 = 8 ?) Anyway, it says they had the tooling and license rights for the L series combine. Having license rights would legally allow them to manufacture the L-series combine, right? So if I correctly interpreted what Tim said, this "L4 Corporation" was buying parts to build the machines from Duetz, but didn't pay for them, they lost their credit, and went under? Also...what is a security filing? |
||
tbran
Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Paris Tn Points: 3238 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
AC -Deutz Allis or Agco - timeline overlaps - had no way to control or obtain a security interest in a product that bore a name owned by them. There were several forces at work. The company from AC to DA to the formation of AGCO had a export sales force that may have had something to do with the allowing of the L4 to be - but that cannot be substantiated by anyone I could find - just rumors. The poor credit came from a reliable source. As long as the machines were in Mexico there was nothing Agco could do - but when they crossed over into the US violation of trademarks and patents came into play but the young Agco had not an abundance of cash for legal battles..
The best I can remember one of the Agco execs was adamantly opposed to , as stated, the L4 Corp. Took some time for him to win.
|
||
When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money..
|
||
gleaner1
Silver Level Joined: 17 Dec 2009 Points: 212 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
The plant is still in business although a slight name change.
acfabrication.com |
||
ALLIS CHALMERS "The color is orange"
|
||
CrestonM
Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8357 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
That is neat to know, Tim. Your stories and wealth of knowledge never disappoint!
|
||
JoeO(CMO)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Cent Missouri Points: 2694 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
|
||
|
||
GM Guy
Orange Level Joined: 31 Jul 2012 Location: NW KS / S.C. ID Points: 1973 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
We have a Mexican L2, Air conditioning and hydro, its a corn/soybean special and doesnt have a heater, imagine that. :) 301 engine. Tan interior,but a different foam/vinyl, and the seat is the same a L.
Much better rear deck, heavier and has a little added support. fit and finish is relatively poor, mixture of rivets, Dad got to speak with the original owner, who bought it from Schmidt and sons in KS, IIRC save 20 grand over a US model. major hyd. problems, assumed tank wasnt cleaned after drilling and welding fittings. Schmidt stepped up and tore everything down and cleaned it up, put it back together, no issues after that. He traded it for a US model a few years later. Its SN 008. Ill try to add pics when I get time. |
||
Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine.
If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help. |
||
nick121
Silver Level Joined: 13 Apr 2016 Location: ontario Points: 322 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
I would say corn it's running out of cleaning capacity is an issue same as wheat. Beans it's hp shortage grinding through tough stems.
|
||
Lonn
Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29773 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
|
||
-- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... -
Wink I am a Russian Bot |
||
Post Reply | Page <12 |
Tweet
|
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |