Yesterday accident...

About what you would expect. It's a shame.   Leon

Wonder how Darrel is doing up north from the sounds of things he is really getting hit hard

others have learned...

I too have worked many of those avoidable accidents, people just cannot slow down! hardly anyone uses mud/snow tires anymore, most of all the accidents out there, the vehicles have summer/street tread if not bald or donut tires on. they should never had made SUV's with 4x4. people that buy them need training on how to drive them.   

I worked nights maintaining winter roads and saw my share of aviodable accidents! I also was either able or had my guardian angel along and avoided some myself! People are so absorbed in getting to their destination as fast as possible that they don't realize they may not get there at all! On time delivery has made truckers drive irresponsible of road conditions or some just don't care as everyone else is in their way!

Technically, all 'accidents' are avoidable. If we are honest with ourselves, most, if not all of us have done dumb stuff that could/should have, but for the grace of God, got us killed or seriously injured....and, we were all young an inexperienced and/or wild and crazy at a point in our lives.

This type of accident is rather insidious, until one has experienced it once or twice, it is hard to understand and avoid. Weather is warm, it's raining lightly, or worse merely foggy and it is hard to believe (or remember) that the surface can still be freezing. And, the are no visual clues, such as when there are snow flurries.

Driving too fast? Obviously that statement is correct.....but what is 'too fast'? If we, any one of us, could have advised those girls as they were walking out the door that morning, what speed would we have advised them to travel? Sure, a speed so that they could have avoided loosing control....what is that speed?

I have no idea where I am going with this....just rambling thoughts. Heartbreaking, two young lives gone way too soon, at least in our minds.

My sympathy goes out to the families, and the first responders who bravely do their job, whether they be paid, or volunteers, these things surely takes a piece out of them!

Last March the wife took out a brick mailbox followed by several post mail boxes. She was going up a slight hill and the sun blinded her and next thing the mailbox was right there. Totaled the car. Every airbag went off, even the rear passenger airbags. She walked away. Thak goodness she was only doing about 35mph.

Could she have avoided it? Sure could have. I would have never hit it but like a good husband I kept my mouth shut.🙄

My good friends mom was going to work and suffered a massive stroke, lost control of car and hit someone head on. Both died. They figured my friends mom was dead before the impact. It can happen anytime even on a sunny windless day.

Edited by Stan IL&TN - 02 Jan 2020 at 10:49am

I didn’t know until last night that the father of the young guy who was killed from here died 3 weeks ago. That wife/mother must be in terrible state of mind.

All the distractions in modern cars are a problem, people just do not consider how much attention they lose with all this 'Stuff' going on around them. Have driven tractor trailer rigs with dash loaded with gauges, basic radio and CB, never had a problem scanning across a set of indications or reaching for a Mic where when get in wife's car the flashes from that Infotaiment screen are VERY distracting, catch her staring at it when she is driving, tempted to make her just shut it off but that won't work either as all the heat and car warning controls are done thru it.

Was on Volunteer FP District for awhile, do not wish any of these type scenes on anyone as gut wrenching and NEVER get over the scenes of death. Had to help recover the remains of a friend one time in the 70s, that memory is just now fading. One reason I cannot or could not join the local FPD here, another is I am too old.

Prayers from here to ALL involved.

Edited by DMiller - 05 Jan 2020 at 8:53am