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WD45 Aaron 
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Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 3:10pm |
Disclaimer: this is not mine CA with loader for sale on facebook with a broken block due to overloading of the loader. Yikes!! Must have gotten very exciting in a short amount of time. CA broken block from loader
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Lon(MN)
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Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 8:01am |
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It would be fun to fix, but around here a good running narrow front CA pin hitch has a hard time selling for $1000.
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Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 8:05am |
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Too far for me. That is too big of a loader for a CA I do believe.
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Stan R
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Posted: 15 Nov 2019 at 5:59am |
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If I recall, we had a CA with a loader and it had cross bars that ran from the front to the bell housing on each side to help take the stress off the engine block. Doesn't look like this one had those installed.
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Posted: 15 Nov 2019 at 6:30am |
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I have seen two other CA's broken and their was a piece broke off both the engine block and the bell housing. Can't tell from pics about this one but the others I've seen both castings needed to be changed.
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Posted: 15 Nov 2019 at 6:44am |
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Buy the time you buy a different block, and install all the good components of this, if they ARE good, you have more than the value of the tractor in parts and labor.
I wouldn't blame the break on the loader. The same thing has happened to G's when operators think they own a dozer.
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Dick L
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Posted: 15 Nov 2019 at 7:01am |
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More to this than just a heavy load on the loader. No matter how well it ran before it broke the engine is still gone. No different that one that is set up or a cracked block from freezing. It can not run until it is totally rebuilt in a different block. Most likely has a bent drive shaft as well Might even take a different torque tube when inspected. All new gaskets as an added expense. Scrap price at best minis loader that has a fair value.
Edited by Dick L - 15 Nov 2019 at 7:03am
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Posted: 15 Nov 2019 at 10:16am |
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Looks to me like the break area is quite dark in color down low. Been cracked for a long time and then a shock load finished it off.
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Posted: 15 Nov 2019 at 10:27am |
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A CA with a lo.ader and no power steering is a bear to steer
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Posted: 15 Nov 2019 at 11:13am |
Even harder broke in half. 
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Posted: 15 Nov 2019 at 3:46pm |
 DrAllis wrote:
Looks to me like the break area is quite dark in color down low. Been cracked for a long time and then a shock load finished it off. |
Yep, looks like the bottom has been cracked for a good while, the middle has been cracked for some time, and the top is fresh.
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Posted: 15 Nov 2019 at 5:45pm |
Hmmmmm.... gives a new meaning to "splitting a Tractor".......... 
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Posted: 15 Nov 2019 at 8:09pm |
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A little JB weld itll be good as new
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Posted: 16 Nov 2019 at 12:24pm |
Ya might need a little duct tape to go with the JB weld!!
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Posted: 16 Nov 2019 at 1:08pm |
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Bailing wire!!!!! lots of bailing wire
not sure that is the correct spelling, but ya get where I'm going with that!!
Edited by LouSWPA - 16 Nov 2019 at 1:10pm
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Posted: 16 Nov 2019 at 2:37pm |
Lets not forget SuperGlue.
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WD45 Aaron
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Posted: 16 Nov 2019 at 3:36pm |
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You guys do make a good point. Adjusting the clutch was never easier.
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Posted: 16 Nov 2019 at 5:36pm |
Now that's funny. 
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Posted: 18 Nov 2019 at 6:20am |
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I have a C in the shed that was broke like that and welded back together.
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Posted: 3 hours 40 minutes ago at 7:27pm |
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Hello, Nathan. An old thread I know, but how did you get on with welding the bellhousing up? I've seen a B for sale with a crack across one of the bellhousing bolts. Going cheap, don't know whether to buy it or not. Many thanks.
Regards, Rob.
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WD45 Aaron
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Posted: 3 hours 18 minutes ago at 7:49pm |
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Depending how bad it is, your patience, time, and determination it probably could be put back together. You can hot glue it with a good arc welder and high nickel rod. I'll warn you, the rod isn't cheap. Preheat with a torch to around 250-300 degrees. Have a friend help and keep the torch on it while you weld as well as after. Slow cool!! Even better if you can completely bury it in sand or kitty litter. Cross your fingers and hope you don't hear a "tink"!
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Posted: 2 hours 50 minutes ago at 8:17pm |
Looks like a 10 Loader for a D10, D12, CA. Dad had a CA8 loader on a tricycle front end CA for years. The link says sold for 700 I would say torque tube on CA would be a weak point. Sorry to see it happen to any CA.
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Posted: 1 hour 43 minutes ago at 9:24pm |
BobPaulusCentrOH wrote:
Looks like a 10 Loader for a D10, D12, CA.Dad had a CA8 loader on a tricycle front end CA for years. The link says sold for 700 I would say torque tube on CA would be a weak point. Sorry to see it happen to any CA.
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100A was marketed by Allis for those same 3. 1500lbs lift capacity. I haven't looked at the bracing arrangement for the CA (yet). I've beefed my CA up quite a bit by adding a frame to it. If I ever decide to add a loader (and can find one suitable), it will be a smallish one and will mount to the frame which will spread the load out across all of the available mounting contact points.
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