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Dave,
Thanks I did not know that trick. Yes I miss Don (MO) and his wisdom and friendship!  I did have the side trumpets off my 45 but it needed brakes and seals and brake drum. Trying to not do as much work on this tractor. 
Took the day off and worked on a steel project for the proposed shop.
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 Chris

D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Folks,
Well the broken WZ is coming back together:

Found the gaskets for the oil sumps in a roll of 3/32 gasket material:

I missed one hole some how:

Pulled in the new seals I did not put any sealer around the o.d. 



Used a piece of PVC to stage the spacer, bull gear, and snap ring:





Used guide pins to position the pans:

Got the inside small bearings in place, installed bolt washers and shim, then cap.
Wheels reinstalled and took it for a ride. All seemed good! No leaks yet!
 Thanks for checking in on me!
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Good work, (as always) Chris. Your homemade gaskets look great. Local Agco dealer still stocks them here, just picked up a set for the D-17.

There are 'snap-ring pliers' available for that style of ring. I have a couple pair, they work good.
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Mike, Folks,
 Thanks. Yea I should have a set of those pliers too. But I don't so I still get it done just not as easy!
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Folks,
First pull of the year in our area is tomorrow. May take this old WZ. I have a bunch of weights for it. Would also like to see what it weighs with the new rear wheels (solid not spin out). I believe I will be a little less than 3500 and may need to add some weights.


The pull is a stone boat on dirt I think. I have never tried that. Might be able to get the light pulls in before the predicted rains.
I still have those set of good spin out 28 inch rims. I should probably sell. Dont really need them for a tractor now!
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Chris...did you take this beautiful machine to the pull? Any pics or vids?
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Most pulls here are "stone" boat on dirt events. Don't use stones anymore - all concrete blocks, now. Nothing like watching (and watching and watching and...) a tractor calmly pulling that boat 100' in 1st gear. My wife says it's like watching paint dry. Wink
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Dave, Mike,
 No I did not load up and go. Was very wet the night before and were predicting rain at pull time too. 
I whimped out and did some other tasks.
The WZ was called in to service to pull down some dead ash trees that my son was cutting for fire wood. I dug some pretty good ruts!:)
Will see if I got any pictures? Well I did not do good and get any WZ pictures. But here is one with Eric on the old WD wide front.

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 Chris


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Well I thought we’d see some pulling pics but this is cool too.
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Folks,
 This WZ tractor has a problem in the drive line that I need some help from the experts on. Tractor running. Push in foot clutch put in gear. Hand clutch is engaged. Let foot clutch out slow and there is a growling noise in the clutch area or drive line. 
If you disengage the hand clutch and let the foot clutch out while in gear, then pull back the hand clutch there is no noise. Would this be the pilot bushing in the flywheel? or the small bushing between the front and rear drive shaft? 
Tractor tries to move just a little when the hand clutch is disengaged. and the foot clutch is let out. Just a little movement of the machine, like the hand clutch is trying to grab?
I have greased the throw out bearing. That did not seem to help
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Sounds like a button type clutch disc noise ??
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Dr,
Thank you for the comment!  I haven't seen a button clutch. I does have what I believe is a 9 spring pressure plate. Should I be able to see the difference from the underside of the tractor through the inspection hole? 
Its a fairly loud whine/growl/ vibration as the foot clutch is engaged. 
If the tractor is not in gear engine running and you work the foot clutch there is no noise. 
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