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JC-WI 
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 Posted: 17 Sep 2019 at 11:42am |
T-bone, ye gotta sometimes do a little prep, like grind the paint and rust off the stuff...  Got tired of reaching under to hook up the tow chains, so welded D rings on. and flip them up when not using them, or sometimes use them as a step. No fancy weld but they aren't coming off either.
My welds aren't that great, but I make sure they aren't going to break and make myself weld it again... 
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desertjoe
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Posted: 17 Sep 2019 at 11:43am |
Hey JC,,,I'm gonna have to "HMmmmm" too like ole TBone,,,,UMmmm,,,,do all arc welders have straight and or reverse polarity,,,,?? I'ma gonna have to claim ignorant on this one ,,,sheeese,,,,
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Tbone95
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Posted: 17 Sep 2019 at 11:53am |
Paint? What is the paint you speak of??
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Ray54
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Posted: 17 Sep 2019 at 12:08pm |
Tbone you need to buy the cheap( for Joe frugal) HF angle grinders by the dozen so you have every type wire wheel and grinder all ready to go without changing wheels all the time.
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Tbone95
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Posted: 17 Sep 2019 at 3:09pm |
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Suppose so. I only have 2. A 7 inch and a 4 inch. Not nearly enough! But see....I’m frugal too!
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 17 Sep 2019 at 4:38pm |
I'm gonna have to "HMmmmm" too like ole TBone,,,,UMmmm,,,,do all arc welders have straight and or reverse polarity,,,,?? I'ma gonna have to claim ignorant on this one only DC machines have reverse polarity. Normally the two leads PLUG INTO a socket.. and you just pull them out and put into the other socket.. Some machines have a SWITCH to reverse the polarity........ AC has no polarity, so not needed.
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DMiller
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Posted: 17 Sep 2019 at 5:09pm |
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I bought two little rod tote ovens a few years back, 120v load with rods a day or two before use, plug it in all nice and toasted when go to use. Another factor, PREP, PREP, Prep, eliminate Mill finish and any paint or rust to start, 7018 will burn thru rust but at a cost, ugly welds, chance of inclusions.
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 17 Sep 2019 at 6:13pm |
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I haven't bought a welding rod in over 20 years. At work one day, the bosses son had 2 pallets of old welding rods all ready to dump in the scrap hopper. I brought about 30 lbs of it home because I could see 6011 and 6013 on most of them.
The welder I use is an old Forney buzz box and it does what I need done most of the time. The x SIL brought some 7018 to me once, he's a Boiler maker welder. I just laughed, watching him try to strike an arch with that rod. He went to school to learn to weld and passed all his tests, but wouldn't believe me when I told him he couldn't lay a bead with his 7018 rod.
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IBWD MIke
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Posted: 18 Sep 2019 at 9:31am |
 CTuckerNWIL wrote:
I haven't bought a welding rod in over 20 years. At work one day, the bosses son had 2 pallets of old welding rods all ready to dump in the scrap hopper. I brought about 30 lbs of it home because I could see 6011 and 6013 on most of them.
The welder I use is an old Forney buzz box and it does what I need done most of the time. The x SIL brought some 7018 to me once, he's a Boiler maker welder. I just laughed, watching him try to strike an arch with that rod. He went to school to learn to weld and passed all his tests, but wouldn't believe me when I told him he couldn't lay a bead with his 7018 rod.
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You ought to see how they throw it away where I work! 55gallon barrel at a time, or a 'flat'. One barrel, the weld shop foreman told me the rods were $10 a piece! Don't remember what they were for. Throwing away stick rods one thing as the flux does go bad in time but they do the same thing with wire and tig rod.
I've never worked anywhere that is as wasteful as this one!
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desertjoe
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Posted: 18 Sep 2019 at 9:45am |
IBWD MIke wrote:
[QUOTE=CTuckerNWIL]I haven't bought a welding rod in over 20 years. At work one day, the bosses son had 2 pallets of old welding rods all ready to dump in the scrap hopper. I brought about 30 lbs of it home because I could see 6011 and 6013 on most of them.
The welder I use is an old Forney buzz box and it does what I need done most of the time. The x SIL brought some 7018 to me once, he's a Boiler maker welder. I just laughed, watching him try to strike an arch with that rod. He went to school to learn to weld and passed all his tests, but wouldn't believe me when I told him he couldn't lay a bead with his 7018 rod.
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You ought to see how they throw it away where I work! 55gallon barrel at a time, or a 'flat'. One barrel, the weld shop foreman told me the rods were $10 a piece! Don't remember what they were for. Throwing away stick rods one thing as the flux does go bad in time but they do the same thing with wire and tig rod.
Hey Mike,,,do they let you take some of thet rod home,,???
Edited by desertjoe - 18 Sep 2019 at 9:46am
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modirt
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Posted: 18 Sep 2019 at 10:25am |
As per Joe's original question, I bought a few pounds of rod yesterday......Hobart......and it was $8 to $10 per pound, depending on what it was. Is that high or normal?
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Posted: 18 Sep 2019 at 12:49pm |
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Joe, we go back and forth on being able to bring stuff home. Right now it's NO! However, the 'manager' and I use that term lightly, in charge is on his way out.
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desertjoe
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Posted: 18 Sep 2019 at 4:31pm |
You know Mike,,I just cannot figure some people and their ways of thinkin on that sort of stuff,,,,,,,I remember the wife and I were drivin up and down alleys lookin for some cardboard boxes to put unused clothes we were going to give to the Hospital Auxillary and we come on to a dumpster that was plunb full and I mean PLUMB full of unopened toys of all kinds and some new clothes,,,so me beenin a resourceful person,,we started loadin everything I could reach from ou side the dumpster,,,,,,until a dude comes out the back door of the store and DEMANDS we stop "stealing" all thet stuff,,!! I told him we were going to take to the Red Cross for Christmas distribution but he kept tellin me to leave. The argument started when I told him that his store no longer owned the stuff in the dumpster and furthermore,,the City owned the alley he was standing on. Bout that time the wife gets in his ugly face and starts to tell him off something fierce and says he's gonna call the cops, so we leave as much as I didn't want to,,,I doubt them sorry people are able to sleep at night,,,,,
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 18 Sep 2019 at 8:36pm |
modirt... that $8. is what you pay at the weld shop or some farm stores.... I have seen it for $30. for 10# on e-bay........... or $3. LB.
Edited by steve(ill) - 18 Sep 2019 at 8:47pm
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