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Busting Commissioned Heating & A/C Co.s

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    Posted: 30 Jul 2019 at 10:30am
We all think we are checking enough, when we need to trust someone to be honest when offering goods and services. Only so much you can check and heating & A/C companies know that when you are down, well, folks want to get cool again during the heat of summer.
Some years back I called a A/C company after moving into town, yellow pages pick as I had no basis for local history nor any friends to call for recommendations, and it was over 100F!
Fella says he can recharge it but it will not last the month as it is worn out and needs total replacement of the system (15 yo home/system at the time).
Sure enough, about a month later it is fading fast but this time I called a fella I met through a customer who told me he was as honest as they come. Holding the flashlight for him to work as 10:00 pm, he pulls the cap and states the former company is known for loosening the valve just enough for it to leak slowly after they top it up with freon so they can push for the new system sale.
Sure enough, he shows me the valve is in-fact loose before he applies a 2-part system sealant just to be safe before topping up the freon.
We ended up becoming fast friends via cattle dealings and still laugh about that system (which I made a rental property) as it has run trouble free for five years now.

I work out of the house so tv morning news is on in the background, including saturation by local heating and A/C companies as the morning commercial time is their target.
As a local tv station busted one of these companies recently for "commissioned sales by service techs" (using the ol' loose valve scam), it is funny how they have all turned on each other with updated commercials touting "our techs are not commissioned salesmen".
I also have a friend that moved in about a mile or so down the road, body shop and mechanical. When I asked how he set up front suspensions on units repaired or hot rods he builds from scratch, he advised he drives them into town or trailers them to the major tire/mechanical franchise store he used to work at. Since that chain store was one I used to use for company lease vehicles, we shared some stories about their "sales tactics" as i had called them out more than once for trying to gouge the lease co. on the trucks I drove. When I asked my buddy why he left such a large name brand store he advised the tipping point was the day he did an alignment on a very nice Caddy that was not that old. As he walked across the shop with his paperwork to turn in, he was met by the manager that stated he had a good number of parts on the way so the front end could basically be rebuilt as he had convinced the little old lady that owned it. My friend advised there was absolutely nothing wrong with the car and a simple alignment was all it needed, plus calling out the counter manager as he had not even seen the car in question.
The so called manager advised him "I don't think you realize how we make our money" before telling him that if he did not perform the work, another tech would.
My buddy said he took less than 30 mins to load all of his large toolboxes into his truck before he left.
As I tell my son and daughter who are now out on their own; whenever someone tells you it's not about the money, it is ALWAYS about the money so buyer beware.
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I raised my daughters and instructed my wife enough to never believe anything anyone tells them especially automotive service. Daughter called a couple of months back to say they told her she needed her power steering pump replaced due to it leaking for like $600. I asked her if the steering was still working and she said yes. Have you had to add any fluid to it? No. I said swing by the house as you are running away from that place. It had a slight oily residue on one of the fittings. It did't even need any fluid added. I told her to never go back to that place.
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I went to a tire shop 2-3 weeks ago to get a tube for a large tire.
I knew it was going to cost around $35-$40.
They charge me just over $48. Just as I got in my truck, I look at the receipt and saw they had charge me $9 labor to install the tube, that I was caring in my hand.
Real fast they put $9 back in my hand.

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We had a local service, fer years, they got bought up so many times, I usedta fergit what they were called.  Last buyout, they are named griffith.  Damned hot-shot furnace tech said the manifold, in the back of the furnace at the rental house was cracked, and non-repairable, needs new furnace!  Hadda pic of the crack on his phone, he showed me.  I thought the color was off a little, So I checked behind the furnace, myself!  Sure enough, no crack, pic wasn't even close to the model we had.  Damn trashy deal they was tryin to scam my parents with. Gotta look out for these scams, everywhere, nowadays...Angry
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jaybmiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jul 2019 at 6:11pm
neighbour and friend are both HVAC guys so ain't no way either will try scamming me... I KNOW where they live !! Good guys, always willing to help, reminds me my 32 year ld furnance needs to be replaced ( so I can get cheaper house insurance...).. now THERE'S a SCAM !!!

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Just rented a car from Hertz. Returned at 4:30 and they told me an extra day, $100 charge since my pu time was 3 and I was past that.
Explained how I was in another State at 3pm on the pu date and my plane didn’t land til 6 so impossible for that to be. Of course I had to interpret a bunch of gibberish their employees call English but finally got credited back and said some kind of computer error.
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We moved in 2012, I put a new modern furnace so it would look better before we moved. I do residential heating.
The old furnace, "Thermal Flow" set up for L.P. would make a good furnace for a shop. Good be changed to fuel oil, it would take a bit.
Anyone interested?

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Seems in every trade or customer service there are shoddy individuals or companire out to rip people off . 
 Brother worked for Kennedy Transmission for 2 months - said he just about wore out his 9/16 socket removing and installing transmission. One car came in with a problem of bad modulator servo on side of transmission so he went over to parts to get one, manager stopped him and said pull the transmission for a rebuild - Brother said all it needs is the modulator - Manager comes back with sometime in the future the tranny will go bad so we will rebuild it now and it will last longer than if you just replace one part . 
 next day brother loaded up his tools in the AM and was out of there .  
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a nation wide chain tryed to do the same thing to my mother on her2002 buick lesabre , they told her thatit needed all new ball joints and wheel bearings told her that it was not safe and probliy would not pass saftey inspection the next year and they could do it for 980.00 ,  well mom and dad brought it over and we put it on the hoist and it all was still just like brand new , now i have had this car several years it has always passed saftey inspections at a shop that i do bissnes with still drives and handles like a new coupe deville 
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