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Exodus from IL - when is Dennis moving ? |
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Coke-in-MN
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Posted: 24 Nov 2018 at 9:26am |
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Seems Illinois is having a exodus of people that is now showing up in loss of revenue for the state - yet politicians say more taxes are needed and refuse to listen . Surrounding states are gaining from the movement as people seek states with low or no taxes and lower property taxes as well as other opportunities
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Wayne180d
Orange Level Joined: 08 Dec 2015 Location: Gilman, Il Points: 5923 |
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We are thinking of moving out of state because of our new yes man governor that will do whatever Mike Madigan wants.
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DMiller
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My cousins are land locked with the farm, Niece and her brood are considering even as they already own their home where may be too Difficult to sell as NOBODY wants to move IN.
Pritzker has been quoted as wanting a gas tax RAPID/SEVERE increase plus add tax to farm fuels then add mileage taxes to mechanized equipment with odometers, then raise income and property taxes. Is this MORON even for real? Cannot see the writing on the wall as he Depresses his state's economy, what a BS Artist. Have said before, taxes are finite, raise a tax on a material and that material gets used LESS, the ensuing revenue raises momentarily then returns to the pre-raise level. Property taxes raise people QUIT doing improvements and upgrades, taxes slump as properties decline in value while sales taxes for those repair and upgrade materials also decline. Income taxes raise, employers either decrease employment or workers move to better employment OUT of State, income taxes remain stagnant or actually decline. Trump made a Great choice reducing income taxes, the return of investment by adding SALES tax revenues by seeing materials use escalate where more employers hire more people and income taxes although less per each increase in total. Stupid is as stupid does with Democraps. |
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Coke-in-MN
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Part of the article says everyone living in IL owes at least $11,000 to the state retirement fund just to pay for what is already promised to retirees .
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Hubert (Ga)engine7
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A nation, state, or municipality can never tax itself into prosperity; just the opposite is true. As people move out property values are depressed and the tax digest goes down so the dumb politicians raise the millage rate just to get the same revenue and values are depressed further. Did these bureaucraps never take a course in basic economics? Taxpayers are not a source of unlimited revenue.
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Ted J
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My sister came back here to WI a few years ago, but I don't know if it's much better. I still feel sorry for my two nephews who live there yet though.
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Ted J
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Is Illinois still the only state to boast that almost all of their former governors are all in prison?
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Wayne180d
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Illinois is going to have a new motto. It will n o longer be the "Land of Lincoln" but the new state motto will be "Where the governors make the license plates."
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JC-WI
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"Property taxes raise people QUIT doing improvements and upgrades,"... How can they keep putting down on your Re-estate tax notices things like "improvements" on property when there has been nothing to improve it has been done... Or when a tornado went through and they still call that an improvement.... Right there is a justifcation to hang the dam county and state officials by their balls for taxation without representation...
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SteveM C/IL
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Screw all those who the gov promised to retire on my back.I didn't make those phoney deals and they should suffer the consequenses for singing up. None of them SOB's are lining up to contribute to my retirement. PAY YOUR OWN WAY!!!
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Kurt WI
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But but but they worked so hard and deserve it! 😉 |
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Thad in AR.
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They can also boast the two worst presidents in history.
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Walker
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They are all gonna miss the grand opening of that new library.
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DMiller
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Pritzker and Madigan are idiots, they are Gonna PROVE to the world they are idiots at the expense of the state of IL and don't care, they should NOT be imprisoned for this but EXILED like to Palestine West Bank.
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john(MI)
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MI is about as bad. The state raised the price of auto registration, and increased the state tax on gas. These increases were to repair the roads. I saw less road construction this summer than in any previous one! I have 3 autos, the state requires me to pay almost $700.00 extra on them which is included in my car insurance. Thanks to our current regime. I sure will be glad to get the new Gov in office. As far as the state employees retirement. They pay into a retirement fund just like everyone else. The problem is the fund has been raped by the politicians just like social security has been. All retirement funds and social security, need to be changed to be controlled by a private firm, who is held accountable for the funds. The funds would not be available to any government entity, and stay funded for the retirees.
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DiyDave
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Why not just abolish all state required retirement, and give it to the workers, to invest themselves?
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SteveM C/IL
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Dave,you know the answer to that.....the poor babies wouldn't invest but would waste it and end up with nuthin. Used to be called being responsible for yourself.Govt whores have screwed up everything they touch!
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JC-WI
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Well Jonnie, you better get ready to bend over even farther with the next one you got... The dim dems in WI got their way in this election with a school soup as the new govern to be... one that promotes top pay for gov. employees and union and more taxes.... in all corners they can find to tax... Me thinks old Tony Evers should have ran for gov in Mindlesssota where taxes are already number ONE...
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Ted J
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Well JC, we must be a close 2nd.....
I've been wanting to move to a warmer state,,,,,,it's looking closer all the time. |
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DMiller
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We missed that guillotine chop this time around, still have a Repub Governor but they are already eyeing a rate increase to fuel tax and license fees as a mileage tax. Only saving grace is it HAS to be put to voters Yay or Nay so does NOT automatically go thru.
McCaskill is out, her replacement may be no better but at least SHE is Gone, tax and spend was all she knew, claimed to be helping the little guy while lining her current hubby's pockets all the time. Evil witch. |
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JW in MO
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Yep, they tried to sneak a gas tax in this last election saying it was only going to cost a few cents the first year. Even the stoners that passed the medical marijuana by a 65/35 margin saw through that! |
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LouSWPA
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Careful there John, you are starting to sound like a conservative!!!! |
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Ted J
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Ted J
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We had the county come up with a half a percent tax for 2 or 3 years, at the most 5 years, to pay for...????? That had to of been 20 years ago now and we're still payin it...
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Sugarmaker
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Moderator,
How about moving this thread over to the political portion of the forum? Regards, Chris
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