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desertjoe 
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 Topic: Are "they" lookin,,,,,??
Posted: 23 Nov 2018 at 4:52am |
With all the current goings on of facebook, twitter,, Google,,hell,,, prolly even the cawnor grocery guy of all kinds of "lookin over your shoulder" . I am concerned of just exactly what goes on in our USED to be,,Private Domains,,,,,??? I just read where an investigation revealed that those millenial doo-dads, Alexia and others with them cute catchy names have been determined to be listening recording and transmitting what you say in your private homes,,,,CHIT,,,,!!! Now,,I had those concerns and is why I never felt the need to buy one of them Alexas to talk to in the house,,,I figure if I need to talk to a female over a drink of a fine wine,,,I'll do the picking out,,,Ya know,,?? But I would not want any of THAT conversation being transmitted to others in an office somewhere in Timbucktoo. Sometime ago there was a study where some monitors had a built in camera in em,,,,,MY question,, How does one find out if your monitor gots one of those spy cameras,,???
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Bob D. (La)
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Posted: 23 Nov 2018 at 5:30am |
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I'm wit you Joe. Don't have any of them Alexa's or WIFI refrigerators. In fact, though my tv is capable, it's not connected to the net. This computer was made for that and it's the only thing connected.
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 23 Nov 2018 at 6:02am |
I read an article the other day that the new 'Roomba' robots are so smart ,they KNOW how many people are in your house and where and the layout of every room. That info is 'uploaded' into the 'cloud' to Irobot(and others), so that the NEST t-stat on your wall can be setback cause it( Honeywell) KNOWS no one is home ! If you read the 'terms and conditions' of any device these days you actually give 'them' your data for free and they can do with it as they want(IE sell to 3rd parties ). The other scary ones are the 'save $$ for auto insurance by installing their 'device' '.The device is a computer that plugs into your OBD2 port, has GPS, G force sensors,records speed,braking, etc. to 'them'. Get into an accident and 'they' know you were speeding, never hit the brakes and not wearing selt belt, radio on(and the station(and the volume))...so they can disallow your claim. They also sell the data to anyone for a price. I get 3-5 emails with links to the 'latest and greatest' E-tech..most deal with 'smart cars' and IOT ( Internet of Things). Thse articles tend to be 'behind the scenes', how the stuff works and I'm both impressed AND scared. Big Brother IS here, everywhere !
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desertjoe
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Posted: 23 Nov 2018 at 8:35am |
Does anybody know how to tell if your monitor has the built camera,,? I've looked all over the outer screen,,can't see one but,,,???? I got my tape ready if there is one,,,,  Here's something,,If all them electronics KNOW you ain't home,,it be just a matter of time before that info is sold to highest bidding crook,,,,,,
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fixer1958
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Posted: 23 Nov 2018 at 8:51am |
Well my laptop has one on it at the top of the screen on the frame. I believe when I bought it I turned off that function. Don't remember now how I did it. I get what you are sayin. Turn it off, unplug it or switch it off when your not there.
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chaskaduo
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Posted: 23 Nov 2018 at 9:54am |
DJ this is one and there are more if you google (Tracked) or duckduckgo (most likely not).
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john(MI)
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Posted: 23 Nov 2018 at 9:55am |
If it has a camera it's usually at the top center, usually just laptops, but now with skype there maybe one in desktop monitors as well. TV's are all coming with them. I guess the kids video games allow you to see who you are playing against, and they can be anywhere in the world. Even if you disable the camera in the software, it can still be used by someone remotely. Your best bet is to fix them like that dashboard idiot light that won't go off, a piece of black tape! if you have a desktop or even a laptop, and you are really paranoid, you could get an old type crt monitor. If you are using a laptop, you would also need a keyboard and mouse, and change your settings to; "Do Nothing When Closed", in your power or screen settings.
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Hubert (Ga)engine7
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Posted: 23 Nov 2018 at 10:21am |
 Bob D. (La) wrote:
I'm wit you Joe. Don't have any of them Alexa's or WIFI refrigerators. In fact, though my tv is capable, it's not connected to the net. This computer was made for that and it's the only thing connected. |
X2, Bob. I don't want any of that junk in my house. If I think anyone needs to know what I am doing I will tell them. Got a cousin that worked for a big forest equipment dealer as a service tech on the road and they tracked all of his driving, one mile and hour over the speed limit and he got written up and they were getting ready to put cameras inside and outside of the service trucks. He retired early and took a job with the local Kubota dealer, better pay and benefits.
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TimNearFortWorth
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Posted: 23 Nov 2018 at 10:23am |
My 82 yo father has had a saying for years; "people are stupid". As I became older this comment made more sense along with others that had been around a very long time. With a son and daughter in their early 20's, makes for interesting conversations as they heard all of Grandpa's sayings relayed by me. Now they talk of the same and it just shows that maturity takes some time, helps to boil down some of the modern junk into common sense. One of the most profound to them is "if it is said enough, people will eventually believe it as truth". To hear young folks question things like the social media sites gives me hope for sure.
I worked for a major corporation that jumped on the Blackberry phones when they rolled them out commercially around 2002/2003. We quickly had over 1000 employees with them, most folks that were on 24 hr. call, and now we had e-mails hitting us nights/weekends so there was literally no escaping work. Actually asked our IT guy about company ability to view us through the company laptops at night as most of us worked from our homes or on the road. It was after hours so maybe he was just relaxed enough to divulge some stuff and the biggest was "they" had the ability to watch us any time they wanted, advising "a piece of white tape should be put over the camera" and he disabled the microphone remotely on my co. laptop. I called BS on all of it and he shut me down with a simple statement; company owned the laptop and had the right to do whatever they wanted to with it remotely and if I did not like it, I had the right to also leave the company. I did within the next two years as they finally got around to installing mandatory cameras and cabin microphones in co. vehicles in my district. Plenty of other horror stories but the simple truth is the government allows all these tracking devices to be implemented as they also have access to same for tracking when needed. The larger auto insurance carriers now promote plugging their device into your vehicle port so they can "assist you in your safe driving habits to make you a better driver". Really? Can anyone see where this will be the new factor for "high risk" fees or dropping you? All of it is introduced to obtain your information and it has been going on forever; as a joke, I returned a credit card app. mailer with the family cat's name back in 2002 when I lived in Colorado. I still get cc offers for that cat and just received one this week based on his "great credit". The genie is out of the bottle as they say and I fear there is no actual way around it. I do not shop on-line, no commercial media sites, nothing. But I have credit cards, I have e-mail and I still have a physical mailing address so it will never stop. Just paid my last invoice for a "smart phone" as I am returning to a good ol' flip phone that I can carry working, including in my pocket while on the tractor. Guess I'll just have to live with using the 3-5 letters for each number to write a text but frankly getting tired of that crap too.
I gotta go as just seen a commercial on tv for the latest version of "candy crush", and they said it's FREE!
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JohnCO
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Posted: 23 Nov 2018 at 11:41am |
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I go to DC almost every year to harass the legislators into supporting farmers, etc. Ran into a friend from way back in the 70's who is in the security business. Was told there are sensors in tunnels all around Capital Hill that can tell what a person has in their pockets, including the type and value of their change! That, to me is pretty scary. I still don't know why anyone needs a "smart" refrigerator or any other household appliance. Someone saw my flip phone the other day and asked if it was steam powered? Told him, No, this one only has a crank, the steam powered ones are newer then mine!
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FloydKS
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Posted: 23 Nov 2018 at 12:19pm |
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flip phone here...although I do have an I-pod (does calendar, email and stuff but need wi-fi to get some stuff done. I put a sticky note over my lap-top camera. Once in a while I think about smart phone but am enjoying life without one, so why bother.
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HD6GTOM
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Posted: 23 Nov 2018 at 9:56pm |
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Off topic I put up a couple of trail cameras a while back. We could not figure out why we had 1000 pictures of the drive way and a couple of me mowing the lawn and a couple dozen of the dog chasing cars on 1 of the cameras. Got to looking real close and you could see honey bees in the picture setting off the camera. If those things are sensitive enough to be set off by things as small as bees, think of what your smart phones are capable of doing. I think I'll invite ol Shameless over, might get that elusive picture of him everybody's been wanting to see, ya think?
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Dave H
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Posted: 24 Nov 2018 at 8:05am |
so you folks think the fwip phone is secure?
Way back when Tony Soprano and the boys were in business, they took the batts outta the fwips before getting down to business. 
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DMiller
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Posted: 24 Nov 2018 at 8:36am |
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Older brother passed away many years ago now, when he was alive and visited would always stay under roof or away from anyplace exposed. He was a Major in Nuclear Weapons Security, stated they could and did know his whereabouts at any particular time, he would leave his security badge AT HOME in a safe when came to visit but said they had other tracking mechanisms to 'Know' where almost anyone was at any point in time. He would not say anything outside as should the satellite cameras be watching they had image clarity good enough to read lips in VIDEO back then. He passed away in 1993 FYI.
Imagine the amount of improvements since then. Every Driver's license is 'Chipped', so are CC as are Debit Cards and ID for Corporate badges or Cell Phones. Is no way we can get away from 'Big Brother'. I would be certain this communication is being monitored.
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Posted: 24 Nov 2018 at 10:26am |
Just last year, I confronted my local Chase bank branch about tellers scanning my DL by sliding it through a unit next to their computer screen. When he advised it was to confirm my ID, I asked why they did not just look at the picture as I was standing in front of them. He did not know what to say, then I advised him that my DL was government issued and Chase bank had no right whatsoever to slide my license so as to scan my info contained on the magnetic strip. He was then told that I would hold my DL up so his staff could verify anything they needed, but they would no longer be handed my DL.
Yeah, the genie is out of the bottle but I like pushing back sometimes as the youth "in charge" only know the current methods.
My favorite story on the "roomba" is the video showing the folks with white carpet throughout the house, and what happened when Fido had an "accident" in the house when everyone was gone. Guess that robot needs a "poop sniffer" built-in so it can go around such things as it sure made a helluva mess out of that nice white carpet, and the robot. LMAO
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