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Valuation thoughts? WD45, Bucket, Blade

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Left you a phone message John. 

Those flood tractors don't bother me if they have enough goodies on them. I drag home tractors that have sat for twenty years outside. A couple even came back to life. The red flag for me is they drained all the fluids. Brought home a  D19 with all fluids drained. took it apart, all the insides were a rust ball. 
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Make sure he has the drawbar for the tractor. Inside the snap coupler bell under the center of the tractor is a double C shaped spring. This needs to be replaced. I did not know there was 1 under there, a plow came unhooked, tiped over and landed on my back while i was plowing. That was over 30 years ago
I still suffer a lot of back pain because of it.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote truckerfarmer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Oct 2018 at 10:40pm
Drawbar is on the tractor in the pic.
Looking at the past to see the future.
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The snap coupler eye broke on my plow, lift latches popped open and the plow stayed in the ground behind me. I warn folks that it is possible for the attachment to come loose and to be sure the lift latches are there and working.
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Originally posted by Lon(MN) Lon(MN) wrote:

The snap coupler eye broke on my plow, lift latches popped open and the plow stayed in the ground behind me. I warn folks that it is possible for the attachment to come loose and to be sure the lift latches are there and working.


I had a subsoiler come loose at the coupler and the latches did not open,think if they get in a side ways bind will stay closed.
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The BIG thing to look into is the springs on the lift latches.  They HAVE to be the correct ones.  If they are too strong, they won't allow the latch to come open.
Another thing to look for is the lift bar or chain part.  If the upper piece (stop pin) that goes into the latch is facing the WRONG direction, they won't pop the latch open.  Especially in the Clevis Assembly (chains).  They get put together facing the wrong way.

So that is YOUR picture I've seen with the plow on the seat of the tractor Tom.  It LOOKS like a real catastrophe!!  I feel for ya!
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If you want to spend $2700, come to NW Illinois and pick up my D17 and Allis Oxnard blade with one extention. It has good PS, straight tin. Back tires are round and black, but hold air. It has one replaced rear rim and one bad one, but a good rim would go with it.
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So are you the new owner?
Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!
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Here I am....back after playing email-tag with the owner of this 45. He said the carb was gummed up, but wasn't willing to come down much. So he opted to have it rebuilt, but the price would still be $1,800. Then he emailed saying the motor was seized and that the new price would be $1,200. What?! $1,200 for a seized WD45? My conversation with my new Allis mentor (Lon) taught me enough to know that was silly-talk at $1,200! Now I see it listed on CL as a "must sell". I told him we were just too far apart price-wise. I think I'll keep looking for a D17 or 45.
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CTucker- Maybe we can do a deal on that D17! (Seriously, Imhave to drive down later this month to Chicago so maybe can take a detour your way to take a look. Near Galena?)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JBergie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Nov 2018 at 8:12am
One more chime in on my post then I'll put this to rest. The seized WD45 was sold (to whom, I'm not sure). So here's going back to the question: If the owner was sitting at $1,200 for a non-working 45, and someone bought it in that condition, could it have been truly worth that amount? Things are really worth what someone else is willing to pay, right?
I'm confused now because I was under the impression that these in a good running state would fetch $1,200-$1,300 (?)
(Since it seems like the AC world is pretty small, do we know who may have bought it?) (It was posted on CL in Lakeville MN)
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I looked at CL for the tractor and never found it. He has a back blade and tires chains on CL now. Do you know if he sold the tractor? Many folks do their homework after the fact. They buy it and find out later what it will take to get it going.
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no way a seized up WD45 even with load and blade is worth 1200. It may take anywhere from $200 - $2000 to get it going. $200 if a little oil easily frees it up.
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You just never know what someone is thinking. I agree that the new owner may not know what the cost of the repairs will be. Many options here. Look for a good running one.

I did buy a stuck WD with a 45 motor a few years back for $450. Found a good running parts tractor and swaped the engine. 
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Yea, I pinged the owner early this morning simply asking if he had sold the WD45 and his one word reply was "yes".  
>>>But now on the bright side!- I found out this morning my bid for some land over in WI won so I'm ramping up my search for an AC to help me do the following: scoop (as in scoop up/knock down a trashed mobile home on the parcel), pull out trees that have been allowed to grow in the field, turn the field, and likely mow areas, etc. So now I'm thinking D17 and add a loader, plow and blade. Here in MN, there's a few D17s on CL, they're $3,995-$4,500, but 'parade pretty'. Others are lower, but seem to have been worked hard.       
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I'm glad you didn't get this one.  It seems like it's always better to wait than to buy on a whim.  I know I've done it enough.....
You'll find something that you'll be happy with and will fit your pocket book...
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Good luck with your next search. Just for reference, I found a WD45 with bucket and back blade where I live.  Owner claims the engine was rebuilt around 500 hours ago...he is asking $3500.

1955 WD45 Diesel, 1959 D14, All-Crop Drill, 303 Square Baler, 2015 John Deere 5075e, New Holland 279 Haybine, New Holland 575 square baler, 5ft roto-tiller, 5ft rotary cutter, 10 bale accumulator
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Hey welcome over to our state! Where did you buy? One has to be careful and not buy on emotion. Done that and found out education is expensive. Good luck.
Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!
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