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goomer 
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Posted: 19 Feb 2018 at 10:10pm |
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Wondering if there is something better than stock valve springs for 301 3000rpm A-pump s200 turbo?
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DrAllis
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Posted: 20 Feb 2018 at 7:23am |
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I've never seen a need for anything more under those numbers. Never seen valve float at 3500 RPM with stock springs either.
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injpumpEd
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Posted: 20 Feb 2018 at 7:40am |
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The problem we've run in to, is boost pressure will try to open the valves between cycles. For that reason, we've set up to use BBC springs, for a solid lifter cam, and even roller cam springs to try to keep things sealed up. The place I get them from is not far from you Brian, Competition Products.
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Beirnesy
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Posted: 20 Feb 2018 at 6:48pm |
I will be using these springs. They fit perfectly with no alterations and have a closed spring pressure of 100 lbs.
Edited by Beirnesy - 20 Apr 2019 at 9:49pm
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injpumpEd
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Posted: 21 Feb 2018 at 7:32am |
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I use the BBC retainer, locks, and rotator eliminators to sit on the head to cover the counterbore.
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Peterson
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Posted: 21 Feb 2018 at 4:38pm |
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My machinist used his BBC spring pocket cutter on my 426 head. Worked perfect. Using comp cams 26120 springs with corresponding retainers and locks. Installed spring pressure is 80 lbs.
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Acllss puller
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Posted: 21 Feb 2018 at 10:23pm |
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I have heavy duty springs left off my twin charger set up ! $50 buys plus shipping , good set didn't float at 100 boost and 4800 rpm! Maybe overkill ! Lol
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Ryan59
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Posted: 20 Jan 2019 at 6:33pm |
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Oh my gosh. Don’t You know stock springs were used for decades and engineers hammered out the correct springs with tree limbs. Think of the wear!!!! 85 pounds of installed height will push the cam through the oil pan. Figure 8x80 equals 640lbs of lard setting on that camshaft. Why I was told on here that the big boys take ink pens apart and use the tiny spring in them for valve springs. These guys scared the life out of me just for thinking about 65lb seat pressure springs. Imagine if I had wrote big block springs.....
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bsallis180
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Posted: 21 Jan 2019 at 12:44pm |
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That’s pretty interesting. You have any pictures?
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MACK
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Posted: 10 Feb 2019 at 7:50am |
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What ever you do don't use stock retainers and keepers. MACK
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