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    Posted: 06 Jan 2016 at 6:31pm
I have a deutz allis 1920 same as simplicity sunstar or agco allis 1920 steering cylinder is leaking internally ,steering is all over the place ,hard to control . anyway apparently they are non rebuildable and new one is $400 anyone know an alternative or is that my best option
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DSeries4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jan 2016 at 9:03pm
Take it to a good local hydraulic shop.  I am sure they could rebuild it.  Never heard of one that is non rebuildable.
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Originally posted by DSeries4 DSeries4 wrote:

Never heard of one that is non rebuildable.

John Deere couldn't rebuild the header lift cylinders on the L3. Or they said they couldn't. Maybe they just didn't want that amazing Silver combine on their lot, for fear they'd be flooded with buyers! 
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These cylinders are commonly about $150, used, on ebay and elsewhere.  My hydro shop here gets about $200 for a cylinder rebuild that size, after claiming they need to make a new rod.  Careful as you ask around, and get a quote before they do the work.
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It sure looks like its non rebuildable there is nothing to take apart on rod end and outer housing is welded like that's how it was assembled. Also service manual and parts manual both state "must replace entire unit" If there is something im not seeing advice would be appreciated.
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some of those cylinders will come apart after removing the fittings from the cylinder




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A hydro shop would put it on the lathe and cut the welded end off, then reweld when done.
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Some cylinders can be disassembled by removing one of the fittings, and popping a retaining ring off the end of the shaft.  It will then slide out.  The ring 'snaps' back on, when you slide the rod back in.
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Are you sure it's in the cylinder? The control vale run by the steering wheel could be the problem.
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