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JC-WI 
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Posted: 28 Dec 2015 at 12:33pm |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIU9FgS4Kf8
Seen an allis-chalmers engine in the vid...
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HudCo
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Posted: 28 Dec 2015 at 1:43pm |
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thats how my dads dad layed pipe he was the one in the trench doing the digging for alot of years after years of being a prospector / miner . be interesting to see some early trench digging equipment probley still a lot of leaded pipe serviceing people. our kitchen sink still has one peice of leaded drain pipe only piece that we didnt replace about ten years ago
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Posted: 31 Dec 2015 at 6:00pm |
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Pouring lead joints has rapidly become a lost art. I had the privelage of working with some old school fellows and watching them work. They didn't do it often, but every once in a while, tiing into an old valve or old line, it would be done. I can remember melting the lead and them saying not to burn it. Boy did it stink! I also remember while digging for them and coming across a certin type of grey clay, that they would immediately gather up and save in a large igloo style water jug and cover with damp burlap. There were several times on a large joint, that the kettle was held with a backhoe or excavator while the actual pour was made.
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Posted: 01 Jan 2016 at 9:24am |
That gray clay is prominent around here, is "Fire Clay" or hydraulic clay to some, the stuff expands and contracts with moisture content up to 10 times original volume.
The oakum fibers were the actual seal, the lead formed a metallic seat for that seal to rest on, oakum also will expand as gains moisture and swell to fill the joint. All too many worry of the old water lines leaching lead, is a very small amount if they can even test that close.
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Posted: 01 Jan 2016 at 9:46am |
When I built my house the code was still cast iron underground required and leaded joints - beyond the footing outside you could use cast with rubber slip joints on belled pipe or fernco type rubber and metal over with hose clamps on hubless pipe. Packing oakum , then pouring lead , then the final part was caulking the lead - using a flat ended chisel and hammer to pack lead into joint tightly to seal against oakum. Times sure changed with the use of PVC pipe - but then between the old cast iron and orangeburg (tar paper pipe), and transite (asbestos cement pipe), there was ABS (black plastic) as well as the white PVC - Got a pipelayers license from State of MN - special license to install pipe underground in areas of less than 10,000 population - UNLICENSED PLUMBING LICENSE - Pay the money - take the class - and take out a bond - and I could install pipe from house to septic tank or city sewer.
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Posted: 01 Jan 2016 at 11:41am |
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very labor intensive !
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Posted: 01 Jan 2016 at 1:59pm |
In my part of the world the term "laying pipe" has a completely different meaning and the video associated with it wouldn't be suited for this website or most peoples eyes!  ......having said that, Thanks for posting this cool video even though it makes my back hurt to watch it
Edited by Brian-KS - 01 Jan 2016 at 3:05pm
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Posted: 01 Jan 2016 at 10:50pm |
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That's a neat video, I worked DPW up tell I got hurt seven years ago. Put lots of band ads on water mains.
I also did see the allis pump in the end of the video
Edited by Mikez - 01 Jan 2016 at 10:51pm
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Posted: 03 Jan 2016 at 4:29pm |
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Brian, I hear ya, when I saw the title post, the first thing came to mind was 1/2 bottle of wine for the lady!
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Posted: 03 Jan 2016 at 9:37pm |
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Brian, I hear ya, when I saw the title post, the first thing came to mind was 1/2 bottle of wine for the lady! |
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Posted: 06 Jan 2016 at 5:36pm |
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Posted: 06 Jan 2016 at 6:54pm |
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Whenever I hear of lead joints, I think of a story my Dad always tells of his days as a plumber / pipefitter.
Warning..... Not for the faint of heart!
They were doing drain lines in a crawl space under a building (can't remember what building, but they were doing mostly commercial/light industrial back then) during the late 1960's - early 1970's. About a 3-4 foot tall crawl space. Anyway, one guy knocked over the hot pot (used for melting the lead) and the lead just happened to run down someone's boot. They got the guy out of there (can't remember if they called for ambulance or hauled him to the hospital themselves) and when the boot was cut off and his foot pulled out, all the "meat" fell of the bones and stayed in the boot - all that was left was bones.
Andrew
Edited by Andrew_D - 06 Jan 2016 at 6:54pm
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Posted: 06 Jan 2016 at 8:25pm |
Gees you guys, this is the construction site... What did you expect to see anyways, grandpa werkin down in the trench? LOL
So were you dissappointed to see it was actual pipe getting laid? 
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Edited by JC(WI) - 06 Jan 2016 at 8:26pm
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