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DanielW 
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 Topic: 180 Belt Pulley - Question for DSeries4
Posted: 12 Oct 2022 at 9:48am |
I've been looking for a belt pulley assembly (including the linkage/engagement mechanism) for my 180 for some time. I came across a post from two years ago where a poster named DSeries4 mentioned a wrecking yard near him that had a few 190's with belt pulleys. I was intrigued to see this, as his location listed him as being in Ontario (where I am as well).
Wondering if DSeries4 is still a member here, and if he might tell me what yard this is at. Or, if anyone else knows where I could get a complete belt pulley for a 180, that would also be greatly appreciated.
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den/southern illinoi
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Posted: 12 Oct 2022 at 2:27pm |
He is listed in the members list and listed as active. His email address is on there. Den
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DSeries4
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Posted: 12 Oct 2022 at 8:00pm |
I am here and active. The wrecking yard in question does not have any more 190s with belt pulleys, and the pulleys they did have are now gone. When I did post that message, there was actually only one belt pulley assembly remaining and 2 forum members ended up going after it, resulting in some bitter feelings being tossed around.
I do remember seeing a 180 with a belt pulley for sale some years ago. It was in Ontario as well. Can't remember where exactly it was. They are few and far between, but some people here might know of one - it might take time though.
Good luck in your search.
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Posted: 12 Oct 2022 at 8:11pm |
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I had the linkages for the 190 reproduced and still have a couple of them. You'd have to check the Parts Catalogs to see if they're the same. $45 plus shipping if interested.
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DanielW
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Posted: 13 Oct 2022 at 6:25am |
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Thanks to all for the replies. Jim: that sounds like a good deal for the linkage. I'll definitely follow up with you if I can find a pulley & housing assembly to go with it. But it's looking rather doubtful I'll find one at this point. O well. The 180 would be a pretty perfect unit to have on the threshing machine and planer, but I suppose I'll stick with my old W6 for now.
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Posted: 13 Oct 2022 at 7:27am |
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Eldon in Washington had one for sale a while back.
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Posted: 13 Oct 2022 at 7:35am |
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Never been around one, but what are the odds of a belt pulley from a D-17/D-19 working ?? I know the side frame is 3/4" wider on the 180-200 frames, but a spacer behind the pulley could be made for that. I suppose the internal gearing is different ………??
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Posted: 13 Oct 2022 at 7:42am |
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Doc, I just looked at AGCO parts book and the gear on the belt pulley is the same for a 180 and a D-19. The housing and shaft are different.
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Posted: 13 Oct 2022 at 8:00am |
Hmm. Now you've got me thinking. The gear is the same, and the housing shim for adjusting backlash is the same, so clearly the housing bolt patterns must be the same. If it's just a case of the housing being a little longer for the 180 to account for the increased frame width, I can easily make a spacer. But if it's a case of the gear sitting inside the housing a little further in or out to mesh properly, that's a lot tougher to manage.
Might try to find a D17 pulley and see what happens, though that could be an expensive experiment.
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Posted: 13 Oct 2022 at 8:04am |
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Kind of what I assumed on the shaft and housing (length) but wasn't sure on the gearing. If they are the same gears, I'd imagine the torque housing dimensions would be the same too, using shims to fine tune backlash. Then, would the pulley would be a little smaller diameter ??? maybe not...
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Posted: 13 Oct 2022 at 12:55pm |
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Both Gears should be the same on all the pulleys. Housing and shafts are different on 180/190..early D ser had different shafts but later/replalcement same as D19...All had the same bearings. Did all 190 have the gear and shifter in them? I checked a couple of mine and have one with the shifter shaft coming out and and another with a plug in the hole...Dale
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Posted: 13 Oct 2022 at 8:20pm |
I do have a spacer for the pulley if you are interested. If so, send me a PM.
Thanks.
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Posted: 13 Oct 2022 at 8:35pm |
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Looks to me like all One-Eighty's have the bevel gear & shifting collar inside the torque tube. The shifter fork I'm not sure, but that could be added in chassis or fabbed up.
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Posted: 14 Oct 2022 at 1:20pm |
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I'm in Ontario and have a belt factory pulley on a OneNinety . The OneEighty and OneNinety belt pulley casting is about 4" longer than the D series. The tractor has to have the belt pulley/AC compressor drive option ordered to have the internal parts. If the torque tube has a plug, you are likely out of luck. If it has the shaft coming up and it moves back an forth, you will have the needed internals. D series pulley may work but the belt will run close to the frame.
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Posted: 14 Oct 2022 at 7:39pm |
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Simply removing the round belt pulley cover will easily verify what is and isn't there.
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