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wjohn 
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Posted: 24 Feb 2026 at 8:51pm |
I picked up a Snap Coupler HD 11 tooth coil shank cultivator at an auction recently. I had seen what looked like a large but rough old AC wheel disk, and passed on it without being able to inspect it beforehand and figured it was too big anyways. Well, the owner was wandering around during loadout and he was tickled pink the coil shank cultivator wasn't getting scrapped. He asked me if I had also bought the "really good disk" to which I replied that from the pictures it looked like it was too large for my tractors. He then said his uncle used to pull it with the WD sometimes and he sure hoped whoever bought it wasn't going to scrap it.
I was able to get in touch with the buyer (scrap cleanup guy) and turns out I actually knew him. He talked me into taking one of the nicest original 64 (I think it's a 64?) plows I've ever laid eyes on, and some other brand stuff I won't mention here, ha. I also pulled a wheat screen and a few parts off of a junk All-Crop 60.
The plow is probably a bit big for my WD45s but maybe it'll get put to work when I get a D19 fixed up enough? The disk is 8.5'. I have a #20 which I plan to use for fast shallow cultivation and have been keeping my eye out for a heavier AC disk for slightly deeper tillage, since my "big" disk (11.5' IH 470) is probably also bit much for a WD45. How are the 200-series disks as far as penetration?
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 24 Feb 2026 at 9:04pm |
If you don't care about looks,just unbolt the last bottom,bracket and all and switch out with 3rd bttm. I'd try it on the 45 in second gear first. The 200 disc cuts good with factory blades. Problem is most replacment blades have too much cup and the leading edge isn't leading. You done well!
Everyone's dirt is different but I pull 4-16's easily in second with my 45. It does have 6.5:1 1/8in overbore and a 175 cam.
Edited by SteveM C/IL - Yesterday at 8:11am
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im4racin
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Posted: 24 Feb 2026 at 9:28pm |
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Make sure the scrap guy knows you are looking for orange...it's amazing what they will offer you before scraping
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55allis
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Posted: 24 Feb 2026 at 10:25pm |
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Good find and save!!!
Boy that plow is nice!!!
I have pulled my 13ft disk on my WD with 16.9R28 rubber no weights in a lower gear in a smaller patch. On a hot day you’d have to watch the temp.
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IBWD MIke
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Posted: Yesterday at 5:36am |
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I'll bet your 45 will pull that 470 disc just fine. I pull a 14' IH 46 every year with mine. Third gear, second in the garden. Looks like a great haul!
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Posted: Yesterday at 7:40am |
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That’s a nice condition plow.
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Gary Burnett
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Posted: Yesterday at 10:35am |
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Pulling a disk depends on how much its cutting and how deep its going.I have a disk that I use on my garden the first time I disk the WD45 will do fine the 2nd time I have to use the Oliver 1600.
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Posted: Yesterday at 10:49am |
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I have a 10' version of that disk. It does good in already worked ground but doesn't do much in unworked ground. In corn stalks it rolls them over and tosses a little dirt.
the coolest part about that disk is it still has the snap coupler traction booster hookup attached. Most that I see have had those parts removed by now.
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Posted: Yesterday at 11:08am |
Very nice haul of AC snap coupler equipment. Just don't get old and tired.
My experience has never been that positive with those in the scrape business. Do what you can to keep that relationship alive.
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Posted: Yesterday at 12:14pm |
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Maybe I’m lucky but he is a great person. Both him and his brother will let me know what they find. I keep him fed with the scrap I generate too. He runs a small route around here with trailers parked at various businesses and pays a lower rate but the simplicity is worth it for me!
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Posted: Yesterday at 1:37pm |
 SteveM C/IL wrote:
If you don't care about looks,just unbolt the last bottom,bracket and all and switch out with 3rd bttm. I'd try it on the 45 in second gear first. The 200 disc cuts good with factory blades. Problem is most replacment blades have too much cup and the leading edge isn't leading. You done well!
Everyone's dirt is different but I pull 4-16's easily in second with my 45. It does have 6.5:1 1/8in overbore and a 175 cam. |
Had the same issue on an IH set of discs. Aftermarket replacement discs are a fraction of the cost as the dealer, and just as good quality. But they have slightly more dish to them. After noticing the same thing as you, I cut apart and welded the gang mounts to have a slightly more aggressive angle and make the leading edge hit more straight on, and it made a huge difference.
Always interesting to hear what plows people are pulling. 3X16's will bring my 180 or Ford 5000 with rebuilt engine to their knees in the soil at our Northern farm. At our Southern farm they'd hardly feel it.
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Posted: Yesterday at 1:42pm |
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A good running 45 shouldn't have any trouble pulling that disc unless you run it real deep in plowed ground. We had a 45 pulling I think was a 14ft fold-up traction booster disc everywhere, but you obviously can't run it hub deep in plowed ground. Good luck with your growing herd.
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Posted: Yesterday at 2:51pm |
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Might have operators manual for plow if your interested. Want me to look
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 19 hours 57 minutes ago at 6:07pm |
DanielW wrote:
SteveM C/IL wrote:
If you don't care about looks,just unbolt the last bottom,bracket and all and switch out with 3rd bttm. I'd try it on the 45 in second gear first. The 200 disc cuts good with factory blades. Problem is most replacment blades have too much cup and the leading edge isn't leading. You done well!
Everyone's dirt is different but I pull 4-16's easily in second with my 45. It does have 6.5:1 1/8in overbore and a 175 cam. |
Had the same issue on an IH set of discs. Aftermarket replacement discs are a fraction of the cost as the dealer, and just as good quality. But they have slightly more dish to them. After noticing the same thing as you, I cut apart and welded the gang mounts to have a slightly more aggressive angle and make the leading edge hit more straight on, and it made a huge difference. Problem with the AC disc is the way the gangs attatch to the frame. There isn't a very good way to re-angle the gangs. Not enough material. The front and rear gangs are plenty close to each other to start with. I have a 13ft 200 AC.
Always interesting to hear what plows people are pulling. 3X16's will bring my 180 or Ford 5000 with rebuilt engine to their knees in the soil at our Northern farm. At our Southern farm they'd hardly feel it. |
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Posted: 19 hours 56 minutes ago at 6:08pm |
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That's weird....How did my comment get in the middle?
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Posted: 15 hours 60 minutes ago at 10:04pm |
IBWD MIke wrote:
I'll bet your 45 will pull that 470 disc just fine. I pull a 14' IH 46 every year with mine. Third gear, second in the garden. Looks like a great haul! |
My Super M with fluid + some crazy cast weights on the rear will spin the rears, mostly on the second pass on the slight upslopes. That 470 disk cuts pretty well and is heavy. I hate to think how much weight I'd have to put on the 45 in order to do any heavier tillage with the 470 behind it, or maybe duals + weight? I'm sure I could limit it to a couple of inches deep and get along okay but that's what I bought the #20 for. Are you pulling that 14' on any slopes, and how deep does it cut?
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Posted: 15 hours 27 minutes ago at 10:37pm |
Allis dave wrote:
I have a 10' version of that disk. It does good in already worked ground but doesn't do much in unworked ground. In corn stalks it rolls them over and tosses a little dirt.
the coolest part about that disk is it still has the snap coupler traction booster hookup attached. Most that I see have had those parts removed by now. |
That's unfortunate to hear about the penetration. I wonder if anyone has a price/order list or other spec sheet showing what the different models of 200-series disks weigh? If I recall correctly my IH 470 disk works out to something like 230 pounds per foot of cut. I'd guess this 209 disk might be 1300 lbs. or so?
I was definitely excited about the traction booster chains/bar.
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Posted: 15 hours 21 minutes ago at 10:43pm |
SteveM C/IL wrote:
If you don't care about looks,just unbolt the last bottom,bracket and all and switch out with 3rd bttm. I'd try it on the 45 in second gear first. The 200 disc cuts good with factory blades. Problem is most replacment blades have too much cup and the leading edge isn't leading. You done well!
Everyone's dirt is different but I pull 4-16's easily in second with my 45. It does have 6.5:1 1/8in overbore and a 175 cam. |
Thanks for the warning about the concavity. I will have to ask my local AGCO/former AC dealer what they recommend and see if they have any other ideas on replacement disks. I can tell this disk could use some. The fronts are mostly notched, which I would like to continue with if I buy new ones... The current ones are worn pretty goofy at this point. Rears might be okay to reuse to get by for a bit, with new fronts.
I might try the 4-14 just for kicks someday before I break it down. I will probably be going slow with all the rocks here anyhow. Your 45 sounds pretty stout.
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Posted: 15 hours 19 minutes ago at 10:45pm |
im4racin wrote:
Maybe I’m lucky but he is a great person. Both him and his brother will let me know what they find. I keep him fed with the scrap I generate too. He runs a small route around here with trailers parked at various businesses and pays a lower rate but the simplicity is worth it for me! |
Most of the scrap guys around here will sell you stuff, just that some are friendlier/more helpful than others. I always make sure to make it as painless and least effort as possible for them. They're always trying to get as many loads hauled to the scrap yard in a day as they possibly can.
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Posted: 15 hours 16 minutes ago at 10:48pm |
Mikez wrote:
Might have operators manual for plow if your interested. Want me to look |
Thanks Mike, as luck would have it I think I picked up a 64 plow manual somewhere with a pile of other manuals.
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