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Posted: 02 Dec 2025 at 8:11pm |
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What was the model numbers for Allis pull type plows offered in the 80’s?
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DrAllis
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Posted: 02 Dec 2025 at 9:00pm |
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2500 mono-frame?? 2000 series (5" x 7 "bar) ......3000 series (7" x 7" bar).
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Posted: 02 Dec 2025 at 10:09pm |
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Which hitch pulls best, on land or in furrow? Thanks, Tracy
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Posted: 02 Dec 2025 at 10:50pm |
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Ive got a 3000 7bottom automatic reset on land plow. The best thing is the wheel tread width is not important
It does a fantastic job. As far as how it pulls compared to a in furrow plow i dont know. I dont have one to comapre it to. Im pulling it with a 8070 fwa so its not a problem to pull
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Posted: 03 Dec 2025 at 7:39am |
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One of the major manufacturers did lots of test back in the days of plowing and proved that in the furrow plows pulled easiest. However that required that the plow be in good working order and CORRECTLY adjusted. In today's world very few plows are either.
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Posted: 03 Dec 2025 at 8:38am |
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I had an IH 7 bottom pulled with a D21, on land then I could leave the duals on, always thought it worked good but really no comparison with in furrow.
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Posted: 03 Dec 2025 at 11:07am |
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Has anyone seen an on land 7 bottom? That would look strange I would think.
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Posted: 03 Dec 2025 at 12:28pm |
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We had an on-land 6 x 16's 3000 monoframe.
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Posted: 03 Dec 2025 at 2:50pm |
Would this be the 9000? #9765?? I think they said the hitch is set for D21 on land...Dale 
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Posted: 03 Dec 2025 at 3:22pm |
Orrangereborn, I'm sure that you have a 9000 series plow on the trailer. I have a 3000 series 7 furrow semi mount 3pt on land hitch plow with auto resets. I have never plowed with it. 3000 series are all 16" with 3pt semi mount on land hitch. 2500 series are 18" trailer plows only.
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Posted: 03 Dec 2025 at 6:51pm |
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Thanks for the info.
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Posted: 03 Dec 2025 at 6:53pm |
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We sold several 2000 series monoframe 5 x 18's on new 7040 tractors. I always assumed the 3000 series had 18 inch available.
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Posted: 03 Dec 2025 at 8:29pm |
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I read somewhere that an in furrow VS on land hitch, the in furrow was more effecient. Think it was in Norm's book. I used neighbors 6-18 IH 720? behind my 220. Was fun! On land hitch which was great with 24.5 32's.
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Posted: Yesterday at 8:38am |
 DrAllis wrote:
We had an on-land 6 x 16's 3000 monoframe. |
right. I’ve seen several 6 bottoms either/ or. Seems the logical crossing point.
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Posted: Yesterday at 8:40am |
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I see I TOTALLY screwed up what I meant to say. Meant to say IN FURROW 7 bottom. Sheesh. Sorry.
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Posted: Yesterday at 9:11am |
SteveM C/IL wrote:
I read somewhere that an in furrow VS on land hitch, the in furrow was more effecient... |
Seems to me that with each additional furrow the efficiency gap maybe would decrease? I dunno 
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Posted: Yesterday at 3:46pm |
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2500 series 8 18 was largest plow made. A experimental 2050 series had new features and a 13 bottom was prototyped and never went into production. I would love to find that plow for my big implement collection. Ive got a 8x18 2500 auto reset that ive got to get home.
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Posted: 23 hours 3 minutes ago at 5:09pm |
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I got to try a 7 bottom in furrow at a plow day in Oct. 7045 - 18.4-38 radials. Around 16k weight wise on bean stubble. Don’t know if I would have tried it on cornstalks. Think you would start to run out of grip. I might be wrong (happens a lot). First time I’ve ever pull one that big.
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Posted: 21 hours 58 minutes ago at 6:14pm |
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So in my area down hill only with the D21/220 and take it back to the top with the 7080 with duals? Have one 25 acre field where they took the top 10 feet for an overpass. Might handle it there.. Kinda lite soil but sure shines up a plow...Dale
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Posted: 21 hours 33 minutes ago at 6:39pm |
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CWhit. Set your Traction Booster linkage to the long hole down low on the right side of the torsion bar. Test Traction Booster adjustment as per the owners manual. Hang a dual on the land wheel side. At least 1000 lbs on the nose. You weigh 16K so you must have fluid. Probably 18 psi in the rear radial tires. You'll be all right.
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Posted: 19 hours 25 minutes ago at 8:47pm |
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I''m pulling 6 X 16 Allis 9000 series on land with D-21, 24.5 X 32 rubber. In tough, waxy ground the traction booster isn't responsive enuf to keep plow from nosing in and letting me count the stars. It doesn't have a front gauge wheel which I suspect would be a great help. Tractor is weighing about 15,500 when plowing.
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Posted: 19 hours 9 minutes ago at 9:03pm |
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9000 series plows are HEAVY. More front end weight makes Traction Booster work much better. How can it work correctly when the front wheels raise off the ground?? It can't.
Edited by DrAllis - 18 hours 3 minutes ago at 10:09pm
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