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    Posted: 23 hours 41 minutes ago at 4:00pm
i picked up this engine and pump with some other parts pump dosnt fit that engine   , what is the engine  and what is the tank on it ? also it has a oliver looking color green paint that is under the orange.   will this fit in my c ?  was this some military spec. engine

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There should be a s/n stamped on the engine behind the carb or on the left bell housing flange lip.  The engine looks to me like a G-138 or G-149 to a D-10 or D-12. The Barnes pump has a diesel p/n on it. So, maybe a WD-45 or D-15 diesel ? The square drives shaft looks like an old Detroit diesel engine, but the p/n is clearly Allis-Chalmers.

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Very early series 1 D10-12 engine.Is it for sale? Thanks, Tracy
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that pump does have kind of a detriot color on the other side
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oil tank and the bottom  coat of green paint  it must have been some  kind of industrail thing  looking on the internet i cannot find a picture of a pump under the distributor houseing on any d 10 or d12 but looks like there was a pump mounted their
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The Detroit pump ( if that's what it is) certainly could have been because A-C used Detroit engines in construction equipment up until 1953. The green paint is confusing tho......
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just looked up the parts on the oil tank  was used on the industrail tractors and ethier power steering pump or auxillery hydralic pump
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Some lame observations:
That large-looking coil seems to be somewhat more robust than the oil filter that it got shoved into.

The pulley on the generator appears to be nearly the same diameter as the crankshaft pulley, which would result in a relatively slow RPM on the generator. The generator itself seems somewhat large as well (unless the photo perspective is confusing me).

Is there any possibility that this could have been a 24 Volt system?


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D-10/ 5308 serial number should make the engine a G-149 cubic inch power plant. G-138 cubic inch was prior to D-10/ 3501.
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what is the dash backwards 2  or5 on the end of the serial number ?  will this fit in a B or a C ?  i  bet this was one of those backwards tractor forklifts
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The serial number is 10- xxxx not D-10, This makes it a 138 engine. The tank when the engine was installed in a tractor was used for the non draft sensitive live hydraulics. 
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If that stamped number (5308) is the chassis serial number, effective 10-3501 was the start of the G-149 engine. So, unless there's something I don't unnerstan, 5308 is newer than 3501.
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Pump appears a Fuel Transfer pump off a DD, 71 series.  Changed many.
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tonight i will measure the bore and stroke the was allready off it  but i do have the pan
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Stroke is the same 138-149-160. The bore is different between all three.
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