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dark_knight 
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Posted: 13 Oct 2025 at 6:32pm |
Hi. I am looking a purchasing a CA with loader. The loader has long manure forks attached to the bucket. However, I am more likely to use the tractor for moving dirt and gravel.
Is there a decent solution for this problem, or should I look elsewhere for a loader with a different bucket.
Many thanks.
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DiyDave
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Posted: 13 Oct 2025 at 7:05pm |
Post a picture of your loader bucket, will make things a lot clearer. 1 solution us to just get a proper dirt bucket for your loader. Another would be to leave the forks on and have a welder fab up a removable plate that covers most of the tines, leaving just a few inches of the tips exposed at teeth.
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dark_knight
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Posted: 13 Oct 2025 at 7:24pm |
Good idea! Thanks for the reply! Here is the image.
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Stan R
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Posted: 14 Oct 2025 at 6:38am |
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50 years ago you could of bought my fathers CA as it had the loader with plate as you describe! It was a plate of steel with holes for the forks to go thru. It was AC Stock.
It shouldn't be difficult to fabricate one. Though I recall my father never took it off as a slight bending of the forks made it difficult to be "easy on- easy off".
Edited by Stan R - 14 Oct 2025 at 6:40am
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Gary
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Posted: 14 Oct 2025 at 6:41am |
That bucket is not an original Allis CA loader bucket, a Model 8. Allis had a 'Dirt Plate' available that slid over the Tines to create a Dirt Bucket. There was also a Snow Bucket available that included a longer bottom Plate and also Plate Sides. G https://www.ebay.com/itm/326199764948
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Posted: 14 Oct 2025 at 8:03am |
i would not bother trying to make it removable.. Just get the local weld shop to lay a 3/16 inch steel plate on the forks and weld in place... probable a wing on each end.. Not difficult at all.
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Posted: 14 Oct 2025 at 10:52am |
find an old bucket of choice and run the forks thru the back and secure per your preference for permanent or removal...if you lived in the neighborhood, I'd give you one... Dale  |
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Posted: 14 Oct 2025 at 2:31pm |
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It looks like you bought a narrow front end tractor. Not great for moving dirt and gravel. With a bucket full of material, it's going to make for an unstable load. Trying to steer would also be a challenge as well.
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dark_knight
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Posted: 14 Oct 2025 at 3:52pm |
Thanks for everyone's input! I have not purchased yet, so this is fantastic info.
I had not considered the stability with the narrow front end.
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Posted: 14 Oct 2025 at 9:37pm |
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I agree with the narrow front being dangerous with a loader. To me they feel pretty dangerous without a loader. Think of a tricycle with a fat kid standing on both sides of the front tire
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Posted: 15 Oct 2025 at 7:19am |
 dark_knight wrote:
Thanks for everyone's input! I have not purchased yet, so this is fantastic info.
I had not considered the stability with the narrow front end. |
well I suppose narrow front is not ideal for a loader, but that’s exactly what I learned on. I was doing loader work with a narrow front before I was a teen. Depends on what you’re using it for. I wouldn’t recommend going into the woods carrying logs up a creek bank, at least not until you have lots of experience. But around a yard, in the barn, stuff like that it’s doable. Low and slow is the mantra.
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Posted: 15 Oct 2025 at 9:14am |
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For a tractor that size, and vintage I personally would avoid using for digging dirt and gravel. Those loaders were designed primarily for loading manure, either from a barnyard or manure piled from winter.
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Posted: 15 Oct 2025 at 9:50am |
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The mounting of loader on a CA is less than ideal. I have seen many photos of CA's that were broken at the bell housing because of too much strain put on the loader. I have a CA with a Model 8 loader and they are fine if you take into account the limitations of the equipment. That being said, from the picture you posted the loader has been modified to give hydraulic tilt. The bucket could have a plate made to slip over the forks. Can't tell from the picture but it appears to be a modified Model 100 loader. I wouldn't try to dig with it but for light jobs it would be fine.
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