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| Jeremy(NY)   Bronze Level   Joined: 23 Feb 2011 Location: New York Points: 9 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Topic: wd shifter problem Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 6:50pm | 
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   just bought a wd tractor got stuck in gear, now it is in reverse, but my shifter is not free the 1st and 2nd rod will not move in or out and the reverse rod the ball bearing keeps popping out of the hole any suggestions
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| kip in cny   Orange Level   Joined: 29 Nov 2009 Location: Jordan NY Points: 538 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 9:36pm | 
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   Welcome to the form.  Where abouts in NY are ya ?  I would pull the rubber boot off and remove the snap-ring and all and remove the shift lever. Then you should need is a long screw driver and be able to center your gears into place if that dont work your going to have to pull the shift tower. 
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| Jeremy(NY)   Bronze Level   Joined: 23 Feb 2011 Location: New York Points: 9 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 9:52am | 
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   waterloo, and thank you for the help i got it all back together up and running
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| ToddSin NY   Orange Level   Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Location: Newark,NY Points: 1034 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 11:47am | 
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   Your not far from me.
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| Chris/CT   Orange Level   Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Niantic, Ct Points: 1939 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 12:57pm | 
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   Must know Don M. from Waterloo???
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| nella(Pa)   Orange Level Access   Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Allentown, Pa. Points: 3133 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 2:03pm | 
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     The ball on the bottom of the gear shift leaver wears and causes a problem like this. I build it up with weld and grind it to shape.
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| Don Jr NY   Silver Level   Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Waterloo NY Points: 359 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 6:12am | 
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   Hi Jeremy, I'm also from Waterloo. Where exactly do you live? Send me a private message if you don't want to post that info here. Would like to talk to you sometime.  Don Jr.
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| ToddSin NY   Orange Level   Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Location: Newark,NY Points: 1034 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 8:16am | 
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   Don did you go look at the combine I told you about?
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| Jeremy(NY)   Bronze Level   Joined: 23 Feb 2011 Location: New York Points: 9 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 9:26am | 
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   todd this is the tractor i got from u only problem i have had with very pleased
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| ToddSin NY   Orange Level   Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Location: Newark,NY Points: 1034 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 1:32pm | 
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   What can I do to help you with it???
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| Jeremy(NY)   Bronze Level   Joined: 23 Feb 2011 Location: New York Points: 9 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 5:20pm | 
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   todd all set with it, all up and running just a case of operator error think i shifted too quick no problems now thanks 
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| ToddSin NY   Orange Level   Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Location: Newark,NY Points: 1034 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 7:51pm | 
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   Ok. Great to hear!
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| Jeremy(NY)   Bronze Level   Joined: 23 Feb 2011 Location: New York Points: 9 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 9:27am | 
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   ok stupid question here serial number of wd11198 that would be a 1948 am i right?
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| Ted J   Orange Level     Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18943 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 9:45am | 
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   According to my book, 'A Guide to Allis-Chalmers Farm Tractors' by Norm Swinford, it is a 49.  48 (7-9249)  49 (9250-35444) | |
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| Jeremy(NY)   Bronze Level   Joined: 23 Feb 2011 Location: New York Points: 9 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 9:58am | 
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   ok thank you
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| j.w.freck   Orange Level     Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: karnack texas Points: 1153 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 9:22pm | 
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   if the shifter ball is worn out,call dean ag and spend 82.00 dollars for a new one
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| Jeremy(NY)   Bronze Level   Joined: 23 Feb 2011 Location: New York Points: 9 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 7:16pm | 
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   got another question my hand shifter wont stay back while in gear it works fine just dosent stay locked in was wondering if it supposed to
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| Steve M C/IL   Orange Level   Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Location: shelbyville IL Points: 691 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 8:00pm | 
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   It's supposed to have a detent ball on the shift rail to hold it.If you don't feel it,it's probably been apart and got left out.Gotta take the whole top off to get to it.
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| Jeremy(NY)   Bronze Level   Joined: 23 Feb 2011 Location: New York Points: 9 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 3:32pm | 
| whole top off what the shifter housing or the cover under battery tray | |
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| John (C-IL)   Orange Level   Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Illinois Points: 1654 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 3:53pm | 
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 Shifter top, the cover under the battery is for access to the hand clutch pack. | |
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| ToddSin NY   Orange Level   Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Location: Newark,NY Points: 1034 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 9:26pm | 
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   Are you talking the hand clutch Jermery??
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| nella(Pa)   Orange Level Access   Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Allentown, Pa. Points: 3133 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 6:09am | 
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   If your hand clutch is not staying engaged take the cover off of the hand clutch  under the battery box and take out enough shims to give the clutch enough snap to hold it in and so the hand clutch doesn't slip. There is a certain number of pounds pull to get it over center when you pull back on the hand clutch lever(about 15lbs or more), but I can't remember how much it is. To tell which clutch is sliping, if the wheels and pto stop it is the foot clutch. If the wheels stop and the pto keeps turning it is the hand clutch. If it is the gear shift leaver not staying in gear then the detent spring is broken or the spring and ball is missing for that shifting fork. To repair it you have to take the cover off of the transmission which is under the gear shift leaver. The shifting forks will be there on top where the ball of the gear shift lever fits into them. Hope this helps Edited by nella(Pa) - 16 Mar 2011 at 6:36am | |
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| KC-WD45   Silver Level     Joined: 11 Oct 2010 Location: Kansas City Points: 114 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 9:05am | 
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  I have thought about doing this. What is the correct size to build it up to? Or do you just grind it down untill it fits? | |
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| nella(Pa)   Orange Level Access   Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Allentown, Pa. Points: 3133 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 9:36am | 
| When I build up mine I just guess at the size without making it too large. I try to build up the aera that has worn off. Someone on the old board posted the dimensions of the ball but I can't find it, maybe someone else can find it. | |
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| Dakota Dave   Orange Level     Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: ND Points: 3972 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 10:15am | 
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   The Ball on the end of the shifter should be 1/2 inch diameter and flat on both sides 3/8 inch wide. The hand clutch should be shimmed to 35 thousands of an inch when released. I can't find the drawings I had when I did mine.
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| Jeremy(NY)   Bronze Level   Joined: 23 Feb 2011 Location: New York Points: 9 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 3:40pm | 
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   it is the hand clutch i am talking about the shifter stays in just fine the hand clutch lever just doesnt stay back 
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| j.w.freck   Orange Level     Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: karnack texas Points: 1153 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 7:49pm | 
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   need to check your shim pak.if they are all gone ,time to get new clutch facings for the hand clutch...
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| j.w.freck   Orange Level     Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: karnack texas Points: 1153 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 7:53pm | 
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   i adjust the hand clutch to where there is a positive snap when it is pushed forward.keep adjusting the shims till this happens...
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| ToddSin NY   Orange Level   Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Location: Newark,NY Points: 1034 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 18 Mar 2011 at 1:52pm | 
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   We always used the method that Dakota Dave suggested. Follow the manual and it will work fine.
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