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AC Mel 
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 Topic: HD20 FOR AC COLLECTION
Posted: 02 Feb 2016 at 9:09pm |
Ok, thought we should share this with everyone. We traveled to Humbolt County, Ca. today to visit with the owners of this HD20. It's buried deep in the majestic redwoods of Northern Ca.  We've been in discussions with the owners for some time and we finally were able to get up there today. It has a well documented history and we're very excited to procure it for restoration. We would be the 3rd owners. The current owners bought it from the original owners in the 1970s to log some of there old growth redwood logs 6,7,8, foot in diameter. They last used it in 2006 and it's been sitting here covered up ever since. Because it has been covered up it has massive wood rat nests under the tarp and in the engine compartment. They are pretty sure when they clean those out they will be able to get it started. We have HD20s, but this is by far the best specimen alive for restoration.
It has a CARCO straight blade (with no visible welding repairs) CARCO front cable unit, CARCO winch. They are planning on cleaning it up and getting it running for us to load. It will probably not happen for a couple of months. (we have lots more rain to come and then need to dry out)
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 02 Feb 2016 at 9:26pm |
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The drive sprocket has lots of life left so I'm guessing the chain is decent too?
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donoman
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Posted: 02 Feb 2016 at 9:35pm |
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Would be great to see it pulling some large logs, likely a J Carco winch through a torque convertor, make great video
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 02 Feb 2016 at 10:08pm |
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SWEET!!!!! Darrel
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Mikez
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Posted: 02 Feb 2016 at 10:20pm |
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Wow that's neat. What year is it
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 6:33am |
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What engine does the 20 have in it, and how much horsepower does it have? Thanks, Darrel
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CAL(KS)
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Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 7:33am |
Hd20 is 6-110 Detroit
man all the nice tractors are in CA. what a great acquisition
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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AC Mel
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Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 10:19am |
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These tractors were made from 1951 -1954 ,don't know the serial number, so I don't know what year. They have a Detroit 6-110 engine with 116 HP.
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Ages Cat
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Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 12:32pm |
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Keep up the good work. No one will save a Komatsu or any of this other offshore stuff in the years to come. This stuff is " American Heritage".
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Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 7:14am |
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must be a heck of a cover to last that long!
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DonBC
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Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 11:23am |
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Looks like it is covered with pond liner.
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AC Mel
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Posted: 05 Feb 2016 at 8:54pm |
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Yes, Don beat me to it. It is a pond liner on the canopy and just plain old black plastic on the winch.
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Posted: 06 Feb 2016 at 8:26am |
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Nice machine, Mel! What part of Humboldt is it located?
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AC Mel
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Posted: 07 Feb 2016 at 10:43am |
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Posted: 07 Feb 2016 at 11:31am |
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I see that lack of survivability in new machines that others don't as well. New Cats are pieces of crap, electronics issues, inability to complete jobs without loaner machines as small problems shut them down, Deere is no better with having absorbed or been absorbed by Liebherr and I do understand the simplicity of hydrostat but the machines have poor longevity in the weight size it is currently being used in.
All too much light sheet steel, plastics in the newer machines as well, no longevity just disposability & turnover for more machine sales.
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Posted: 07 Feb 2016 at 10:11pm |
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Mel, did you post something?
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"If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer"
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Posted: 08 Feb 2016 at 1:10am |
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Top class engineering, design,and virgin steel, not melted down scrap steel, that why the older tractors have done the tens of thousands of hours, and if you can get or make spare parts you can keep them working indefinitely ...the mark of Allis Chalmers
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AC Mel
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Posted: 08 Feb 2016 at 9:30am |
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AC Mel
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Posted: 08 Feb 2016 at 9:40am |
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John, I was testing my new invisible letters, looks like it works too. If you hit the wrong post reply first it does that. So no you didn't miss anything. I was trying to post the town Weott for ACcrazy. It's not to far from where Bruce lives, so we'll probably give him a heads up whenever we go to get it,just in case he wants to come and check it out.
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ACcrazy
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Posted: 08 Feb 2016 at 11:25am |
 AC Mel wrote:
John, I was testing my new invisible letters, looks like it works too. If you hit the wrong post reply first it does that. So no you didn't miss anything. I was trying to post the town Weott for ACcrazy. It's not to far from where Bruce lives, so we'll probably give him a heads up whenever we go to get it,just in case he wants to come and check it out.
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I think that's an outstanding idea. 
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Posted: 08 Feb 2016 at 5:49pm |
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Invisible letters are easy, I can do them at will...
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Posted: 08 Feb 2016 at 6:08pm |
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Posted: 09 Feb 2016 at 2:41pm |
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Nice dozer !! Just what is a "wood rat" ? we have no such critter up here in northern MN.
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DMiller
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Posted: 09 Feb 2016 at 4:15pm |
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We call them Pack Rats around central MO, are just that, a rat in the wild. Ours enjoy grabbing shiny crap usually nothing they can actually use just shiny. Two filled the engine compartment on a C60 chev bus we had for a portable cabin and I mean filled it to make a nest, took three days to unwind all the crap and get it ready to drive out.
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Posted: 15 Feb 2016 at 5:01am |
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squirrels?
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Posted: 15 Feb 2016 at 10:56pm |
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Wood Rats love to pack sticks ,leaves,and grass and fill up any area they decide will be a good place to live. Out in the woods there home will look just like a mound of sticks 3 or 4 feet across at the base and 3 or 4 feet high sometime built against a tree,bush, or stump.They like to find a protected place like under the tarp on the dozer pictured. In just a few weeks could fill the engine compartment with sticks they will carry up to a 100 yards.
There is a old red wood barn at the vineyard I do work for. Just used to park 2 smaller wheel tractors a sprayer and forklift.Rats moved in one winter,only one tree closer than 60 yards.Filled both tractor engine areas with sticks,chewed wires on both as well as chewed the rubber AC line on the cab tractor.The 2008 NH cab tractor started but would not move as the transmission has some kind of electric computer controlled shifting,so no current no move. Even with poison all over the barn still have some damage from them.
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Posted: 15 Feb 2016 at 11:02pm |
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You keep them wood rats out there, cuzz we don'ts need them here buildin mounds 4 ft high. bad enough to have durn groundhogs and squirrels and other critters gettin into stuff here and diggen under buildings and foundations and chewin up plastics on wires and rubber hoses too...
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