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maccountry 
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 Topic: Steering Clutch availability
Posted: 24 Sep 2014 at 2:40pm |
Hello members , Looking for help --- A***gin ? Yeah . Am looking for a Left side steering clutch assembly for my HD11B seriel # 2675 circa 1955/57 ? Any suggestions and possible prices I am going to have to pay for it would be appreciated . Thanks in advance .
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Ray54
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Posted: 24 Sep 2014 at 9:28pm |
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General Gear in Idaho ,has a very good reputation from other old crawler fixers.I have not used them.Last after market steering clutch plates I used has been a few years and they were $20 plus dollars apiece.Depending how worn the drive teeth are on plates you can just add more to bring the stack up to the new stack thickness.Hopefully you can find a measurement of new thickness, as if you get it to thick it will not disengage to turn.
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maccountry
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Posted: 25 Sep 2014 at 2:05am |
Thank you RAY54 .Did you mean that "General Gear" in Idaho has some used ones but that there are also some after market ones out there also some where ?
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DMiller
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Posted: 25 Sep 2014 at 4:11am |
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Last I spoke with them out there they had used and new discs.
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maccountry
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Posted: 25 Sep 2014 at 10:16am |
Thank you Sir . I will try them when & if I get the old steering clutch out . I'm still working on the radiator.
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iceberg210
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Posted: 25 Sep 2014 at 4:55pm |
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As a regular customer of General Gear, for Allis parts even, they are a great resource I would definitely recommend them. They always seem to have both brake bands and steering clutches for Allis dozers.
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maccountry
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Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 9:18am |
Mr.Iceberg210 , Thank you for the added "thumbs up" on them. I will definately bgive them a try when I finish my radiator repair .
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Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 6:19pm |
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Buffalo Clutch relines brakes and clutches. I took my HD6 steering clutches to him and he found an interchange number and pulled the clutches from his stock. The clutches for the HD6 and HD7G are for sale on eBay. I was told by one of the sellers that these are still being manufactured. I forgot in which country. Ask a question to an eBay steering clutch seller. I got used clutches at a good price from Hector at Gem Dozer
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Posted: 27 Sep 2014 at 7:06am |
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The eBay seller said HD5-6 and HD7G steering clutches are being manufactured in Austria
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maccountry
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Posted: 27 Sep 2014 at 3:16pm |
How about HD11B ?Are they still being made as well ?
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Posted: 27 Sep 2014 at 3:45pm |
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Mac, friction plates and spacers for HD5, HD9, dry steer HD6, HD11 are all interchangable. The bigger the tractor, the more plates are used. Same deal for wet steer clutch tractors where friction plates have a different composition for oil bath, HD6, HD7G, HD11, again interchangable.
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maccountry
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Posted: 28 Sep 2014 at 10:02am |
Thank you very much for the "interchangability" information .This has become quite a learning process for an "Old Fart" like me but I'm still fumbeling along with it .Doing two machines at the same time (a Case 680 Construction king loader back hoe) doesn't make it any easier either .Almost got that one finished though .
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Ray54
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Posted: 28 Sep 2014 at 9:43pm |
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Been working no time to play here,but looks like other have helped.Hector of Gem Dozer is very knowledgeable,and from comments has good prices.Only down side is French is his first language,and is hard to follow sometimes. He is in Canada but has no trouble sending parts south it seem.
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maccountry
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Posted: 29 Sep 2014 at 3:33pm |
I took "French" in the 9 th. grade ( 57 years ago ) . Heck , I couldn't even speak english back then --- not much good at it now . Born and raised here to . So French was a total failure for me then . But, We'll work it out some how . May be in the Spring though .Want to finish the Radiator first and am having a hard time with that . Bolts been in so long may wind up cutting them off , forcing the radiator off of them , cutting them off a second time immediately next to the "threaded holes , then drilling them all the way through and using new bolts with lock washers and nuts on them . Going to work on it again Wednesday.Buddy is bringing his big compressor over . Thanks as always .
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Ray54
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Posted: 30 Sep 2014 at 6:00pm |
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I am a failure at that English stuff too.If you have a welder handy to your dozer lay a flat washer on the cut off or broken bolt and weld it on and then weld a nut on top of washer let it cool so you can hold your hand on it ,hit it with the best impact wrench you can get your hands on.May not come the first time or the second but lots easier than drilling and tapping .And don't worry about next time as that will somebody else problem.But put some anti -seize on it anyway.
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maccountry
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Posted: 01 Oct 2014 at 7:38am |
Good morning Ray54 . Sounds like a heck of an Idea! I just bought a welder as well .I will try that .The direct heat on the short stub of the remainder of the bolt should help as well.Thank you .
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DiyDave
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Posted: 01 Oct 2014 at 5:53pm |
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After you weld the washer and nut on, hold a bees wax candle against the threads, so the wax melts into the threads. Let it cool, and tighten the nut/washer/stud till it just moves a little. Then back the whole mess out...
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maccountry
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Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 2:46pm |
Doing it tonight .Thank you.
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