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    Posted: 12 May 2019 at 3:17pm
OK, guy was redoing the gravel shoulder on the highway. He had his front wheels slanted(tilted ?) towards the highway.
I'd like to know why as the shoulder's flat...
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Keeps the machine force pulling away from the ditch as the blade cuts into the ditch. Similar to as a motorbike leans to corner, they do not steer into one.
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Always wondered that myself.
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man I KNEW someone would know !!! thanks
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Real answer is that by tilting the wheels toward traffic, you can rip door trim offa drivers cars, that venture too close...Wink
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Have many hours in a road grader. You learn pretty quick why they have wheel lean feature. Only time they're straight up is when roading it.
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lots of times I wished I had tilt wheels on my tractors!
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One road grader operator I was watching must have just leaned em because that's what he was told todo, and didn't grasp the concept of why you lean them, because he had em leaned the wrong way. Darrel
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I guess I don't get it, sorry to say.
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By leaning the front wheels they bite a little harder. When blading hard packed surfaces the moldboard has a tendency to want to push you sideways. By leaning the wheels it counteract the sideways forces to help the machine go straight.
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Originally posted by truckerfarmer truckerfarmer wrote:

By leaning the front wheels they bite a little harder. When blading hard packed surfaces the moldboard has a tendency to want to push you sideways. By leaning the wheels it counteract the sideways forces to help the machine go straight.
Thanks Trucker, so if say blade were angled to discharge to the right, you would lean the wheels "top" to the right, putting tire footprint opposing the push....(?)
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Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

Originally posted by truckerfarmer truckerfarmer wrote:

By leaning the front wheels they bite a little harder. When blading hard packed surfaces the moldboard has a tendency to want to push you sideways. By leaning the wheels it counteract the sideways forces to help the machine go straight.
Thanks Trucker, so if say blade were angled to discharge to the right, you would lean the wheels "top" to the right, putting tire footprint opposing the push....(?)
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Oh, I’ve seen it before. Just......you should have heard the answer my dad gave me when I was a kid!
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Oh, great, Steve, you had to throw articulation into the mix didn't you!
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I ran graders for near 40 years AND the first thing that you learn is the wheel lean and how to use it and which way to lean it, also how much lean you need.
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all sounds complicated, maybe that why my grader guy makes more mess that fixes road.
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