Hd 11s clutch disengaged but keeps moving

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   Hello everyone i fired up the hdll after a long winter to push some dirt and after she warmed up a bit. The machine didn't want to stop after releasing the clutch. I pushed it forward really hard to engage the clutch break to where it started smoking on me. So it wouldn't stop i then idled it down and pushed dirt until it bogged down the motor enough to quit. After getting it back into neutral i started it up again and got it back into gear and started pushing again and released the clutch and it was doing the same thing kept on going.   Any ideas on what might be causing this?  Thanks 

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JW Reeves Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 11 Feb 2023 Location: Montana Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote JW Reeves Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Hd 11s clutch disengaged but keeps moving Posted: 03 Apr 2025 at 9:38pm
	Hello everyone i fired up the hdll after a long winter to push some dirt and after she warmed up a bit. The machine didn't want to stop after releasing the clutch. I pushed it forward really hard to engage the clutch break to where it started smoking on me. So it wouldn't stop i then idled it down and pushed dirt until it bogged down the motor enough to quit. After getting it back into neutral i started it up again and got it back into gear and started pushing again and released the clutch and it was doing the same thing kept on going. Any ideas on what might be causing this? Thanks

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Codger Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 23 Dec 2020 Location: Utopia Points: 2458	Post Options Post Reply Quote Codger Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Apr 2025 at 6:23am
	Sounds as if your main clutch disc is rusted/stuck to the flywheel surface. You can either keep working the tractor with the clutch released hoping it breaks free, or replace the clutch. Power on, power off in short and quick succession sometimes has luck where you are "shocking" the driveline.
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JW Reeves Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 11 Feb 2023 Location: Montana Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote JW Reeves Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Apr 2025 at 10:12pm
	Thanks for the suggestion, along those thoughts of rusted together i pulled off the inspection plate on top and everything looked amazing clean and zero rust to be found. I checked the clutch housing fluid. After i learned there was such a thing and after adding 3 gallons to what should hold 4.5 gallons it was back up to the full mark i haven't tried it yet but hopefully that was the cause of the clutch not disengaging

Codger Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 23 Dec 2020 Location: Utopia Points: 2458	Post Options Post Reply Quote Codger Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Apr 2025 at 6:21am
	I had to do some digging but you have the then optional wet clutch in your machine. After a certain tractor number in the high 6900 range, the oil clutch was an option. Yes, lack of oil will cause them to heat and burn. Hopefully yours is not destroyed being run dry. The smoking you mentioned is caused by the clutch, or transmission brake to stop driveline movement to allow for gear, or direction changes.
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fjdrill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Access Joined: 13 May 2012 Location: Alabama Points: 392	Post Options Post Reply Quote fjdrill Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Apr 2025 at 6:30am
	How did you get it in gear after you started the engine? Did you push start?

gemdozer Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Points: 1061	Post Options Post Reply Quote gemdozer Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Apr 2025 at 8:43am
	After your motor is running the brake cluch should stop the cluch turning and you angaged the transmission

JW Reeves Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 11 Feb 2023 Location: Montana Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote JW Reeves Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Apr 2025 at 8:02pm
	Once i stalled out the engine and it quit i was able to get it out of gear to be able to start it again

JW Reeves Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 11 Feb 2023 Location: Montana Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote JW Reeves Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 Apr 2025 at 7:47pm
	I had a chance to test out the tractor after filling the clutch housing with atf and it has helped but am still having the same problem it will not disengage. i can idle it down all the way and push on the clutch break as hard as i can and it slows downbut i have to grind the gears to get it into gear . I wonder if i just need to adjust the clutch by backing it off?