What next after Allis

Massey is using some Fendt technology now.

Massey for me.

AC720Man wrote: He is 87 and up until this year still ran the 6060 as we road the wagons putting up square bales. Even caught him starting before I got home from work last year. He had hooked all the equipment up, and had loaded 30 bales before I got there at 330. He would allow the baler to push 3 bales on the wagon, stop the tractor, crawl up on the wagon, stack them, and then back on the tractor to get 3 more pushed up on the wagon....he was 86!!! I was so mad! Scared the heck out of me. But he loves it that much and now I totally understand where us 3 boys get our love of farming from.

For 45K, you can get an Agcostar or a 9000 series Versatile. I know you dont get along with Buhler short lines, but Versatile is their flagship line that gets the most attention, and many dealers bridge any gap.

There is so many things that can and do fail on green that are not even there on a Agcostar or a Versatile, IMO your cost of ownership would be terribly high in the Deere.

I would say crawl around them all, and see what you like and dont like. Driveline size, axle size, ease of service, cab, etc.

As far as CIH, all I was aware that was orphaned was the manual transmissions, the Fujitech Powershift still has good coverage.



To get back to your original question, many Allis guys around here usually turn into a farm of all colors, the one has a New Holland Versatile, a New Holland Steiger (TJ series) a 8000 series Track JD (due to cost, they have crap resale) and still runs Gleaner.

Many are turning to Challenger, which IMO is the new Allis. Great value, class leading features, great performance, etc.

The E series Challengers (85 and 95E, etc) are very well liked and are reliable.

When a Deere is wore out at 10,000 hours a Challenger is still rolling. They are a 30,000 hour capable tractor, according to our friend in California who is a New Holland dealer.

He thinks highly of the Genesis, and all generations of versatile, and all 2-135/ 2-155 and newer Whites, they are all 30,000 hour tractors as well.



Edited by GM Guy - 18 Jun 2017 at 10:53pm

GM guy,

I haven't ruled out a 9680 one bit. It does meet a few of my requirements, 855 cummins, big cab, I bet it has good visibility, simple, no electronic extra bs, as long as I shop some price should meet my target. My go to Agco dealer also sells NH I plan to question my parts guy good about availability.   They might sorta be the Gleaner of the articulated tractor world.   My top two choices are a Ford 9680 or Deere 8960.

Simple is good

My father switched to Massey and White after going Allis (Mostly Massey). That was before he downsized and we moved out here. Then, he brought his old Deere 4520 with him, which was replaced with an early White 2-105.

victoryallis wrote: GM guy, I haven't ruled out a 9680 one bit. It does meet a few of my requirements, 855 cummins, big cab, I bet it has good visibility, simple, no electronic extra bs, as long as I shop some price should meet my target. My go to Agco dealer also sells NH I plan to question my parts guy good about availability.   They might sorta be the Gleaner of the articulated tractor world.   My top two choices are a Ford 9680 or Deere 8960. Simple is good

Those 9000 series seem to go and go, that is for sure. They also had a heck of a production run too, so plenty should be out there.

If you come across a smaller model with a L10 or M11, I wouldnt rule it out, they are torquey efficient engines. We dont have any in tractors, but do in trucks and like them alot. A friend has a pair of Designation 6 machines with the L10, and cant get over how easy they are on fuel.

On the 8960, those had the big pivot bearing on the rear half of the articulation joint that if it goes it is not cheap. I know the 9000 series had that Lord Coupler, IDK about the 8960. Tiny cab is not grandkid friendly. Maybe just a tick better than the 7580 for room though... :)