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    Posted: 30 Jun 2017 at 11:24pm
Hey howdy! New to the forum, just got my Great Grandpa's '36 Allis Chalmers Model WM delivered closer to home so I can fix and use it. It's a wide track model with extra wide grousers. Needs some love but I got the magneto rebuilt and the engine is not frozen. Tracks are free and one of the steering clutches broke loose while they were loading it. The other one is still stuck.

It's crank start but I heard there's some modern starters that will bolt right up? Would I need to convert to 12v? 
I would like to get a blade for it, might need to fabricobble one. Where are the blade mounts in the track assemblies?
Tanks are super rusty, as is the radiator. Best methods for cleaning those?

I think that's it. Thanks, and I hope you like it!
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thats a real keeper there
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You wont find a blade for that one. That has swamp pads on it, really rare.

Do you need a dozer? If so i would start with something more common and newer for the parts availabilty.
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Are the blades on these all home build then? or is it the fact that it is extra wide? 

Yeah kind of, I do have an opportunity on a 1950s International  dozer that was completely rebuild. Part of putting a blade on this would be the fun of doing it. Going to restore it regardless. Don't have any need for a farm tractor, I need a skidder or a dozer. However, I could easily just have a blast roaming the hills in this. 
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Wow that is neat! it sure looks like a fun to drive machine.
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Great to save an old Family tool.
 It might make a good bush hoggin unit Big smile I have an overgrown pasture I try to mow best I can with the tractor, but there are SO many different thorny things out there, it would be nice to be on steel and not have to fix a flat again!



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Mine has a home built apparatus for a dozer blade.  I plan to remove it if I can find a pto unit for it, don't know why, probably won't use it either.
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Originally posted by JW in MO JW in MO wrote:

Mine has a home built apparatus for a dozer blade.  I plan to remove it if I can find a pto unit for it, don't know why, probably won't use it either.
So JW, Did you ever get it out of gear? lol
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Originally posted by Don(MO) Don(MO) wrote:

So JW, Did you ever get it out of gear? lol
Yep, paddled across the yard in 4th gear just because I could.
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Originally posted by HaroldOmaha HaroldOmaha wrote:

Wow that is neat! it sure looks like a fun to drive machine.

Thanks! I wouldn't know, but I hope to find out LOL
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Originally posted by CTuckerNWIL CTuckerNWIL wrote:

Great to save an old Family tool.
 It might make a good bush hoggin unit Big smile I have an overgrown pasture I try to mow best I can with the tractor, but there are SO many different thorny things out there, it would be nice to be on steel and not have to fix a flat again!


Can you get some steel wheels? I tend to do most everything with a handheld brush cutter. Heavy string does almost everything I want to cut. metal blades are a little scary in the summer here. 
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Originally posted by JW in MO JW in MO wrote:

Mine has a home built apparatus for a dozer blade.  I plan to remove it if I can find a pto unit for it, don't know why, probably won't use it either.

Would be grateful if you posted a picture of your home build blade. Looking for a PTO as well, preferably the gear reduction one. 
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Great job in keeping that part of your family history!
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Awesome stuff! Keep us posted.
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Here's a link to the thread that has a picture.  Scroll down to my post about her crawler, an M but without the blade but does show the cylinders and framework.

http://allischalmers.com/forum/a-show-she-wont-ever-forget_topic139792.html
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I have a m that has the baker blade that I would sell. Ryan 402-469-1738
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Originally posted by JW in MO JW in MO wrote:

Here's a link to the thread that has a picture.  Scroll down to my post about her crawler, an M but without the blade but does show the cylinders and framework.

http://allischalmers.com/forum/a-show-she-wont-ever-forget_topic139792.html


Great thread! And that picture without the blade is exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
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Originally posted by rtwfarm rtwfarm wrote:

I have a m that has the baker blade that I would sell. Ryan 402-469-1738

Think I'm gonna be tied up with this one for a while, but thanks! If I can scrape enough together for a heavy trailer and and truck to pull it I'll be there in a heart beat Tongue
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Little update, just done dickering with the crawler today. Cleaned out some mud daubers from the exhaust, kicked out some paper wasps from the air cleaner, shook out some wasps from the carb, pulled some moths i think from the combustion chamber. Then I timed up the magneto, cleaned the plugs, new wires, poured in a little gas and started cranking. Did that off and on all day and got maybe a slight cough or two. I got blisters on my fingers. Was packing up when I thought I'd stuff a rag in the exhaust and see if I could push it out with the compression. Instead the rag got sucked in. So looks like stuck valves and now I really gotta get into it! Should be fun. Anyone want pictures?
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SON OF A!
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Of course we want pictures!!!
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Ok then :) Hopefully I can get back to it next weekend.
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do those tracks look backwards to ya'll? Or am I just crazy?
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