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nsula_country 
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 Topic: 180 Grille Needed: Dystroyed Mine, Pictures!
Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 10:40pm |
I am in need of a grille for my AC 180. I was bush hogging this evening and my grille fell off. I did not see it fall, it must have fell straight down. I heard a racket under the mower and saw an orange piece of steel. I was like, "What the...?". When I got off and investigated, this is what I found.
Anyone have a straight, used grille for sale? uploads/4585/CIMG2907paint.jpg uploads/4585/CIMG2905paint.jpg uploads/4585/CIMG2913paint.jpg Can we say, FUBAR? Think I can hammer it out? LOL. Has anyone added more catches or different catches for the grille. I was mowing 5-7 ft tall weeds in low 3rd on somewhat rough ground. The 6ft Rhino 172 had no choice but to follow! Enjoy, CT
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SHAMELESS
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Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 10:50pm |
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yep...think it's beyond fixin...did ya say shucks when it happen'd?
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nsula_country
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Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 10:54pm |
Actually I felt a little sick. This is an OEM grille. I bought the tractor 360 miles from home. I took the grille off and put it in the back of the truck to prevent leaving it on the side of I-20. Now I "redesigned" it. Absolutely disappointed in myself. This is a fairly straight tractor that I had planned to tear down and restore proper. Now one of the most seen details is gone. Very sad. I will put better or more catches on it. The two holding it on were tight.
CT
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HagerAC
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Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 10:55pm |
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The guy I sold a 185 grille to said he had some similar latches to the originals but they were able to be locked somehow. Not sure how they work, but he is a member on here so maybe he can explain further. Wes can you explain your latches?
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Skyhighballoon(MO)
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Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 11:08pm |
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Best way is to drill a hole inside the grill on a support bar and another one inside the cowl and have a chain with quick links on the end. Chain should be just short enough to get an arm in to undo one of the quick links to take it off.
A quick fix is to take a plastic cable tie and wrap around the factory latches so they can't come open unless you cut the cable ties. Mike
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nsula_country
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Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 11:26pm |
Skyhigh, I like your idea of the cable ties. Unfortunately its too late for that and I have several hundred, black high quality cable ties in my shop drawer. When I get another grille, I will put check chains or cables on it.
I'm still sick over what happened. Live and learn... CT
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Jim Lindemood
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Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 7:29am |
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Yep -- that looks terminal. Feel your pain -- hate it when "stuff" happens -- and it does.
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JoeO(CMO)
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Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 7:48am |
I know your pain, and as others have stated, that grill is history.
My dad always kept the grills on his 170, 180 and 185 tied with a short piece of electrical wire with the insulation on it, which could be reused over and over. He caught one under the tractor while discing, that is when he started tieing them on.
The grill on my 185 has a tight fit and has to be bumped with your palm for it to slip off. I do periodically check the latches.
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ky wonder
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Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 8:24am |
i'm sorry man!
is all i can add
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i like old tractors of all colors
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Dave in il
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Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 8:31am |
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Lost the grill off my 200, the mower missed it but ran over it with the back tire. The replacement I found had a sheetmetal screw above the factory latch on each side. I drilled a hole in my tractors sheetmetal and use them as an insurance poliicy.
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Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 9:39am |
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Like the grill. Bet someone would buy that quick. LOL
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nsula_country
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Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 6:09pm |
If I could find a sucker on EBAY to buy it. LOL. Heck, it probably would sell. Still I need a new grill. Anyone have a spare one laying around? Know of any sources to get one?
CT
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Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 7:09pm |
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Yep, flail blades DO NOT PLAY! Sorry for your loss.
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I didn't do it! It was a short, fat, tall, skinny guy that looked like me!
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Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 8:58pm |
We got our 185 grill from Bill at:
AC TRACTOR SALVAGE 8480 225TH AVE MAQUOKETA IA 52060 PHONE 563-652-2949 E-Mail: acbdeppe@yousq.net
He also had a 180 grill at the time. This was a few months ago.
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Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 9:07pm |
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If you have a good grill and use the tractor or take it to shows secure the grill with something other then the latches they are not reliable and grills are getting harder to find a bump or something and they are under a tire and gone. Dad crushed one with the loader on the 200. I make small metal straps with nuts welded on the back and use 1/4 in bolts to hold them in place, 1/4 in holes better than a crushed grill.
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Oldoug
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Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 9:51pm |
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I have one that is workable, $250 as is, can get pics if needed.
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Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 9:55pm |
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I use the zip tie trick on my 185, think it helps when latches catch right too start with.
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Harvey/pa
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Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 10:04pm |
My 175 has the straps & machine screws like DanWi. I had a minor disagreement with a tree some years ago & a local shop fixed it for me, but meanwhile I found a new one, I seem to remember they were fiberglass & I think they had them at Wenger's in Myerstown, Pa. Do not know if they still are available. 800-451-5240 or www.wengers.com I did not get the new one since the old one turned out so good...Harvey
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Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 10:28pm |
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Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 11:20pm |
Ya, that should buff right out. Mine and my brothers are chained.
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Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 11:32pm |
http://www.mcmaster.com/#draw-latches/=cv7y21 Here's what I told Cody about. I haven't gotten any latches yet. Our hood has a slight crease in it in the front that holds the grille pretty snug. I ought to invest in some of these latches though. They still wouldn't prevent the latch from simply slipping off of the hook on the hood end. -Wes
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Bill (E.C.MO)
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Posted: 23 Jun 2011 at 2:47pm |
Don't feel like the lonely ranger. Mowers and grilles are not always compatible, and discs aren't much better. My 180 grill popped off when I hit a washout and the disc nailed it before i could stop.
If it makes you feel better, what makes my case more aggregious (and makes me a candidate for idiot of the year) was that it happened a few times previously and I DID get stopped in time...then thoughtlessly assumed it "wouldn't happen again" ;-(
Here's what I use now for a secure grill fastener in addition to the flimsy factory latches:
They're not original, not inconspicuous, but easy to manipulate and plenty secure.
BTW, I picked up a decent take off replacement grill from Niel at Northside Salvage in Southern Illinois. You might want to give Niel a holler and see what he has: northsid@htc.net
Edited by Bill (E.C.MO) - 23 Jun 2011 at 2:58pm
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