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    Posted: 24 Jun 2012 at 6:03pm
who all has one or more?     we have two  my XTjumps 3rd down hill  dads 180 jumps 1,3,R down hill with a load and 4th up hill or when ya shift into hi range.

Edited by XT in pa - 24 Jun 2012 at 8:46pm
190XT,D17and 7045
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I have XT that jumps 2,3,4. reverse gear is pretty worn but doesnt jump as it was a loader tractor.  I am currently tearing down and was planning on posting some pics in the next few days.

Edited by CAL(KS) - 24 Jun 2012 at 6:07pm
Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20

Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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Got a 180 that jumps 3rd bad the rest all stay in , just put my foot against it;its good ; all though my D21 did once out of 3rd ; i broke a variable speed belt on the Gleaner F combining fescue seed ; had the 21 hooked to it to get it close to the shop ;i was holding it back going down a hill , just slipped it back in and held it ; my wife was in the combine , good thing too , cause she would have freaked and prolly lost it ; i kno of one kid 13 years old that got killed on an XT cause it jumped out and the brakes wer,nt very good and it rolled

Edited by DougG - 24 Jun 2012 at 6:16pm
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Out of everything I have only have a 190 that jumps 4th, a d14 that jumps 3rd and a h3 6way balde that jumps 2nd and 3rd
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I have a CA that jumps out of 3rd, and a D-14 that third doesn't engage. Bob
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Used to have one until I got it fixed.  There seems to be a combination of several items that cause it.  Worn shift linkage and forks, worn bearings on the input shaft and output shaft...
'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '63 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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Out of about 60 running tractors, only my 190XT jumps out of 4th (knock on wood)....
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My D14's 3rd gear doesn't work at all, my D19 jumps out of 3rd going down hill, the rest of them all work good. Darrel
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Guess I'm just lucky. Only have 2 tractors-1963 D-17 ser.3 and 1974 200. Maybe D-17's did not do it so bad-have owned it since 1967 and it's never jumped out of any gear. Have had the 200 since 1976 and same deal-never had a problem. Don't know the hours on the 200 cause the hourmeter(not tach) quit working at 5000 hours even. I would guess it has around 8-9000 hours cause hourmeter quit many years ago. I will say that me or my dad who died 5 years ago have been the only operators since 1976 and we NEVER EVER grind gears when shifting. 
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If you would give the gears time to stop turning before trying to put it in gear you would never have a jumpout problem. Driver problem not tractor problem.  MACK
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I have never had one jump gears that didn't jump gears when I got them. I hav a wd45 diesel that jumps gears but it was that way when I got it. MACK says it right.
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Originally posted by MACK MACK wrote:

If you would give the gears time to stop turning before trying to put it in gear you would never have a jumpout problem. Driver problem not tractor problem.  MACK
Spot on Mack
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Out of all the tractors grandpa,dad,uncle and I have,we had one 45diesel that popped out of 3rd when he bought it. It's been fine for 30 years. I would like to mention that my buddy has an H that jumps out of 5th and you can't hold it in. It also had other gears that the teeth were broke off. I just think if Allis would of made it so you didn't have to take a bunch of stuff apart just to get the gears out it wouldn't be as big of deal
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Our D-17, D-15, and D-14 all popped out of 2nd. When I opened them up to fix them the splines where the collar moves over to engage where wore out. The tractors of are 50+ years old and have had wear and tear. It happens. I bet the stuff they build now wouldn't even last that long.
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I thought I should get in also, 2 of my CA's and the D14 has bad 2nd gears. My D17 , D19 and all the b's, c's, WC's, and WD's are still good.
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My CA jumps out of 1st.  My C is all good.
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