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    Posted: 23 Nov 2018 at 12:23pm
I just purchased a CA with attachments, plow, and harrows, from an estate. I have no idea how the harrow mounts. anyone have any pics or copies of manuals for these?

Edited by LouSWPA - 23 Nov 2018 at 12:25pm
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Doesn't look like everything is there judging from the pictures. Nice looking CA though. Sorry but I don't have any manuals pictures of the set up.
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You sure that aint the back half of a set of cultivators? If so and I remember right, take off drawbar, swing the arms the toolbar is resting on up and pin to the lift arms on the tractor. They go inside the C channel of the arms.
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Told ya wrong. The two arms pointing up on toolbar go inside lift arms, the two it's resting on go to welded brackets behind the rear axle.
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Oh yeah, ya got to pin the hydraulic cylinders to the other set of holes at the top of the lift arms allowing them to lift higher too. I may be thinking of the plows here, better try lifting with a jack first before changing cylinder pins.

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OK, I don't have it home yet. I do appreciate the advice. I was hoping to mount them before loading so a didn't have a bunch of stuff to tie down on the trailer. that would leave just the plow to deal with
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Thats what Rural King and new straps are for! LOL
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Originally posted by Dave in PA Dave in PA wrote:


Thats what Rural King and new straps are for! LOL



I just dumped $150 in new chains and binders at rural king. I do need to get new straps, mine are look a little rough. I feel comfortable using what I have, but DOT has been harassing us weekend warriors, so I am trying to look professional. LOL
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Walker, I may be wrong, I was assuming that tool bar mounted under the belly and was manually lifted. I am making that judgement based on the lift handles on the tractor and the mounting attachment on front of tractor, and that piece laying in front of the tool bar in pic
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Unfortunately, the owner is deceased, and the fellow I am dealing with is his wife's son, a co worker of mine, who has limited knowledge of it. When I went to look at it, I focused on the tractor condition, and didn't pay a lot of attention to the attachments he had for it. It is about 300+ miles from me, I'll be picking it up 12/1
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It looks like my rear cultis. The bar in front of it goes to the front cultis and pins in the c channel above front axle with the wedge pins and I'm sure you do have to change holes on the hyd. cyls. The two arms in front of batt. are for lifting side shields. If it's on the mid Oh. side of Pa. stop by and I'll show you how to mount.

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The front set are actually belly mounted that's why that bar on the ground has a big bend in it.
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The more I look at those pics the more I think it's something somebody doctored up from a set of cultis. A lot of the pieces are the same but configuration is diff and I haven't even started on the middle pic yet. Mine were bought from factory and used mainly to do corn. Maybe the thing was used as a harrow after all. Second pic from top is what I'm mainly talking about.

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Two pictures look like front mounted cultivators up side down  and other one with square bar is for rear to plow out tracks.Looks like some parts are missing.Levers on tractor are to adjust front plows seperately.
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Better listen to murry, been awhile since I used em but in 3rd pic down the finger with hole on end of bar pins in hole in the rail next to engine block and I thought spring teeth looked to be facing wrong direction.
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Originally posted by LouSWPA LouSWPA wrote:

Walker, I may be wrong, I was assuming that tool bar mounted under the belly and was manually lifted. I am making that judgement based on the lift handles on the tractor and the mounting attachment on front of tractor, and that piece laying in front of the tool bar in pic


I may be wrong, but I think those handles are for depth not lifting.  You should check around the property for anything orange that may go with it, and ask the guy if he could look around in the house for any manuals that may be there.
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Look on search  and put in cultivators for c a  allis chalmers and it will bring up pictures.
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well geez WM, wished I thought of that! that helped a lot.
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I'm here to HELP Lou!!  When you're traveling West, just swing by here an drop em off.  I'll take care of em for you.  That includes the CA itself if you want...
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Originally posted by Ted J Ted J wrote:

I'm here to HELP Lou!!  When you're traveling West, just swing by here an drop em off.  I'll take care of em for you.  That includes the CA itself if you want...



'preciate that Ted, I'll keep you in mind!
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