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    Posted: 26 Mar 2012 at 11:45am
anybody have a clue what this user-added valve is supposed to do?  holes were cut into the platform/floorboard to accommodate it, but it doesn't seem to have any effect regardless of lever position.  on a 1952 CA.
3 connection points are auxilliary port, pump & right hand ram.
apologies for the debris; pictures taken before cleanup.
 
52 CA, 41 B and a little B1    oh, yeah... and an 8N ford snuck in there, too.
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It looks like a diverter valve....maybe to run a front loader from one port and the rear lift from another. Almost a necessity when using a back blade and front loader at the same time.
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Probably a 'Diverter Valve'
My ole eyes arn't good enough to trace out the lines but -
 
the way it works is this:
1 feed line from the tractors hydraulic pump to the valve.
2 lines  out drom the valve, 1 to the rear tractor rams,
the other line to some other ram  Eg. loader
 
The position of the lever on the diverter valve determines where the pressurized hyd. oil goes.
 
I have one on my 49 WD to separate the front loader from the rear lift rams.
 
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currently only has 2 rear lifters, so i assume was originally installed for something else now missing?
has an underbelly frame for a cultivator but mechanically operated.
so looks like i'm ready to go with adding another implement? yahoo!


Edited by CAdon - 26 Mar 2012 at 12:04pm
52 CA, 41 B and a little B1    oh, yeah... and an 8N ford snuck in there, too.
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Hey Eldon
 
Guess these ole fingers type too slow  LOL
 
Shouldn't you be out working on Brakes or something !!
 
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yeah, me too but it's raining!
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Originally posted by Gary Gary wrote:

Hey Eldon
 
Guess these ole fingers type too slow  LOL
 
Shouldn't you be out working on Brakes or something !!
 
Gary
It is raining here too...and I need to pull the rear housing and 3pt off the D17 SIV yet (all my brake work is done for the year....yay!).  Just didn't want to change into my "grease" clothes till after I went to consult with a customer at noon.....so here I sit!
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Originally posted by CAdon CAdon wrote:

currently only has 2 rear lifters, so i assume was originally installed for something else now missing?
has an underbelly frame for a cultivator but mechanically operated.
so looks like i'm ready to go with adding another implement? yahoo!
Oops....I forgot you have that veggie cultivator on the front (how could I??).  My guess is that one of the rear cylinders was rotated forward to lift the front cultivators, the other stayed with the rear lift arms to pick up the rear section of cultivators (we called them "scratchers", as they scratched out the tire tracks. I'd bet that if you unhooked the cylinders from the arms and tried them only one would work at a time. For maximum lift in the rear, you will have to T both cylinders together from the same port on the valve.
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The levers up front on the cultivator are only used to adjust the depth....some of the lift linkage to connect to the rear cylinder might be missing....
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You should be able to do this......
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Thanks, Eldon.  LOL
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Looks to me like the left side cylinder is connected at or before the aux port, which also supplies pressure to the diverter valve. Any time the pump is activated, that left side will want to extend. It depends on if the diverter is closed or open to another cylinder with less resistance, as what will actually happen and when.
 The B and C had a diverter valve with one cylinder to each side for the 2 way pick up plows. The diverter would hold one up and let you lower and lift the other.

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what, operate a beautifully restored CA with multiple implements on open, flat land with good soil where i might actually be able to grow something useful?
now why would i want to do that...?
thanks, eldon for a picture of where i'm headed.
just got a very troublesome rusted joint steering rod knocked loose, so now can progess on splitting my own CA, so your inspirational picture is quite timely.
(still won't sell you the cultivator though!!!)
 
charlie - sounds like more than i need at the moment but very useful later.  like when i get "eldon's" cultivator operational.


Edited by CAdon - 26 Mar 2012 at 5:19pm
52 CA, 41 B and a little B1    oh, yeah... and an 8N ford snuck in there, too.
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