Am I missing something here?

Took off the wide front off the D19 to fix the front main seal, look at the steering box, and to put the narrow front on when I am done.   After getting the wide front on and taking a look underneath, I only have four holes to pick up the narrow front, but the narrow front has five holes to bolt up.   Am I missing something, or does all D19's only have four holes, or did I find something where someone in West Allis in the 60's had too many beers playing sheepshead the night before and only got four holes drilled and forgot about the last one.   I will take some pictures and post.  

They are there I see all five I think, but are full of crud. Mine had all 5 as I put the narrow on last weekend. I may get it out and take some more pictures today.

The yellow circles are where the WFE were and need 5/8" bolts put back in. The red circles are where the narrow front will go once you find and clean out the holes.

Edited by Travis(NE) - 15 Jan 2012 at 1:02pm

   Is there a bolt sheared off in the 9 o'clock hole ?

Mine is a real early one and had all 5 holes.


Maybe yours is a later one and to save money they didn't drill and tap that one, or like you said somebody was having a rough morning as a side effect from a really good night? LOL

I would think you could find that bottom piece of the steering support from a doner 17 or 19 easier than drilling and tapping that one. I know i have one or two in the parts pile somewhere and can't drill a straight hole to save my butt and if I did get a good hole the tap would just break off anyways...

Well, tore into it some more tonite and there is a hole there, and a broken off stud.  Randy, you were right.   So hopefully I can drill, ez out and retap the hole.   When I took it off though to put just that piece and not the entire steering box up on the drill press, the back casting of another hole had been broken off and a bolt with some teflon tape was run into it from the back side.   So there must have been a narrow front on here at one time, and possibly a bolt or two got loose and this and one broke off, and the other busted out the backside.   So I can probably clean the one hole out and retap.   The other, I was thinking about putting a nut on the inside side, using a bolt to line up the thread with the threads in the main piece, welding the nut on, and then welding the end of the nut closed to seal the hole so that it doesn't leak out any fluid.   Or am I better off finding another piece like this from another front steering box, that someone might be willing to part with.   Here are some pictures, you guys be the judge. 

 

Edited by ChuckLuedtkeSEWI - 15 Jan 2012 at 9:31pm

I've seen something like that happen on a 17 only on a hole for the WFE support, but whoever did it drilled and tapped the hole for a 3/4" bolt. Found out when I went to take the bolt out and the normal 15/16 socket wouldn't work and had to use 1 1/8 and then when the bolt came out so did the oil! Was not expecting that. Anyways at this point I feel you would be better off finding a replacement piece. If you can't find one local let me know and I'm sure I have one someplace and could help you out.

Not to change subjects, but what did you find out with your Hyd line and diverter valve? Also did yours have the front pump on it when you got it?

Sounds like a plan Chuck! I will look for the piece you need when I get home and post a picture.

Parts have been found!

I almost messed up and brought in a front off of an early 17(it was easier to find) but noticed it has the smaller outside holes for 1/2" bolts. This one is off of a 19 and as soon as the front warms up(it was outside and is in the teens today) I will take it apart, clean it up, and give it a good look over.

Yes it will. My plan was to take the piece off that he needs and FedEx it to him. I am open to options and if Chuck could use the whole thing and you have ideas I'm sure we could work something out. I am in the Seward/Lincoln area, but would be willing to travel.

Thanks Travis.   I went to the local bearing house and got new orings for the steering control valve and while I was there, I did get a new big oring like that and I got a new seal for the middle.   Actually they didn't have an exact match with a felt and rubber seal in one, so I got two thinner rubber type seals and was gonna put them in back to back.  I figured with how little that turns and the fact that the narrow front will keep dirt/grime getting at the seal it will be good enough for my lifetime.   I will take a picture of the valve I have and hunt down the metal tube.   I dont' know if you need that or not, but if you do, and it's repairable, you can be the judge.   I have to leave now, but I will take some pictures after dinner for you and get things on my end.   Thanks a ton. 

Travis, I got everything all cleaned up and some pictures taken.   I sent you an email to the email address in your profile.   If you have slow loading, let me know and I can post the pictures on here.    Thanks again for the help.   I also included my phone number if you want to call.  Or send me your phone number and I will call you on my dime.