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DrAllis ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21851 |
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Not on any "L".
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Lonn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29805 |
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I think there was a 145 hp option for the M2 and possibly the straight L that may have been the 301 turboed and intercooled version. Maybe
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DrAllis ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21851 |
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There is a big difference from a 1972 "L" versus a 1976 "L". I never saw a 76 "L" that wasn't a hydro which meant it had a 426 engine. I can imagine a 76 "L" having a 7010 style engine oil cooler with a DM-4 injection pump but no intercooler. It would have been rated at 130 flywheel HP configured like that. Your "stamped Allis-Chalmers" was on many regular intake manifolds, not just the intercooler type. The only way it can be intercooled and painted orange is if someone added it on.
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Tim_Gorge ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 05 Apr 2017 Location: Freeport Il. Points: 130 |
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That's neat to know that. Some one must have really cared for their L. The paint on the engine is exceptional even for a combine. And the intercooler is stamped with allis chalmers Im going to get some serial numbers when go up and see what i find out. Now you've got me curious what I stumbled across. It would be ironic if it was 7020 engine right after I try to build one. Don't get me started if it runs good. ![]() |
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DrAllis ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21851 |
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1980 and up combines are black engines, not orange. Don't think you'll ever find a 301 with an intercooler on an orange engine unless someone added it in the field.
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Tim_Gorge ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 05 Apr 2017 Location: Freeport Il. Points: 130 |
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This engine has both intercooler and bigger oil cooler i plan on changing both. But your right i was taking about the oil cooler. |
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Tim_Gorge ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 05 Apr 2017 Location: Freeport Il. Points: 130 |
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I wondered about that. But I'm no expert on that and didn't question it. So it must have a different engine in it. It's the same setup as my bothers 7020 but it's orange so I'm guessing it's out of another combine. |
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injpumpEd ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Walnut IL Points: 5095 |
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Seems to me people confuse the oil cooler and innercooler terms. BTW, nice work saving the ole iron! A 130 flywheel hp 301 should be fine and efficient for what you're doing.
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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DrAllis ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21851 |
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Model "L" never had an intercooler available. Not until 1980 & up L-2/L-3's.
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Tim_Gorge ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 05 Apr 2017 Location: Freeport Il. Points: 130 |
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The bigger intercooler is coming. I found a 301 in a L Gleaner at the bone yard he only wants 600 for the whole engine and I'm told "it runs great" to quote the guy lol. In the next couple weeks here I'm headed up with the compression tester and battery to check it out. But the plan is to take that intercooler and put it on this 301 and dull the new one down for a back up for my M2 Gleaner. Mine runs good but it makes me feel better knowing the engine could blow up and I can be back in the field the next day. |
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Tim_Gorge ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 05 Apr 2017 Location: Freeport Il. Points: 130 |
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![]() I'm with ya there mack the 426 is a whole different animal. I only have a 100 acre organic operation. As I was pulling out of my last field this spring I was looking at the neighbors fields going "I wonder if they could use some help this year". Hahaha. But it would pull that 24ft field cultivator in 6th. I've got some clay hills on the farm that dropped it to 5th and 4th on rare occasion but over all it didn't care. |
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Tim_Gorge ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 05 Apr 2017 Location: Freeport Il. Points: 130 |
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Well we have 2 7060s with the 426 one i overhauled this winter. The other is getting the works this fall. I've got a 24ft field cultivator and a 6 bottom 18in plow. And that's the only implements on the farm that take more that 100hp to pull. So when I got into the 426 it had 2 spun bearing needed seats and valve guides new valves of cource and a complete overhaul we were looking at around 4 grand in parts and machine labor. We had the 301 sitting collecting dust i put $1700 into it that includes the adapter plate from a 7020. Plus I wanted fuel efficiency and its real hard to beat a 301 if your looking for over 100hp. Grandpas 190xt has been the workhorse on this farm since he bought it new its been my go to until now like I said it's a wonderful upgrade from that with only about a half gallon an hour more fuel consumption. The air conditioner is worth all of that lol. |
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MACK ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664 |
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I still like the torque of that old 426 when it has a load behind it. MACK
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AC7060IL ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 19 Aug 2012 Location: central IL Points: 3530 |
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Thanks for photos & congratulations on your AC project. Good to see any AC kept from going to salvage yard.
So... basically you’ve built a turned up 7010? Well that is - assuming the 301 is turboed only. I don’t see a 7020 intercooler. Edited by AC7060IL - 23 Jun 2020 at 9:22pm |
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Orangeisgreat190 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 07 Apr 2020 Location: Ohio Points: 50 |
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Nice job, 301 is a heck of a good motor.
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wade89 ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 12 Feb 2018 Location: Northern MN Points: 220 |
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Not being negative, always glad to see Orange back up and moving. Why the 301?
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garden_guy ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 05 Jul 2013 Location: Illinois Points: 1150 |
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Looks amazing.
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DougG ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 8339 |
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Great job! And thanks for the pics !
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Tim_Gorge ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 05 Apr 2017 Location: Freeport Il. Points: 130 |
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Thanks guys. I was definitely relieved to see it run. This is the 1st diesel I've completely overhauled like this I've done some gassers and so many small engines I can't count. But there was some nerves going as we hooked this one up to the plow. But it just made it all the more satisfying to watch it work.
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JPG AUSTRALIA ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Points: 767 |
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Great job👍 Well done!
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Tim NH ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 16 Oct 2012 Location: Lancaster NH Points: 1123 |
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I'm sure you were happy after rebuilding engine and have it run so good. I know the feeling.
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Tim_Gorge ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 05 Apr 2017 Location: Freeport Il. Points: 130 |
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I figured 5 18s would serve well on the break in. We plowed around 60 acres with it this spring. It was running good but after about 2 acres you could tell everything seated up and it's ran like a brand new 301 as it should. Very happy with the results of this project. The pump is set at 135 hp. The engine doesn't lug or seem overstressed at all. It is one hell of an upgrade from the 190xt with comparable fuel efficiency.
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