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2900 301 in 7060 chassis project.

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    Posted: 24 Jun 2020 at 1:13pm
Not on any "L".
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I think there was a 145 hp option for the M2 and possibly the straight L that may have been the 301 turboed and intercooled version. Maybe
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There is a big difference from a 1972 "L" versus a 1976 "L".   I never saw a 76 "L" that wasn't a hydro which meant it had a 426 engine. I can imagine a 76 "L" having a 7010 style engine oil cooler with a DM-4 injection pump but no intercooler. It would have been rated at 130 flywheel HP configured like that. Your "stamped Allis-Chalmers" was on many regular intake manifolds, not just the intercooler type. The only way it can be intercooled and painted orange is if someone added it on.
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Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:


1980 and up combines are black engines, not orange.  Don't think you'll ever find a 301 with an intercooler on an orange engine unless someone added it in the field.


That's neat to know that. Some one must have really cared for their L. The paint on the engine is exceptional even for a combine. And the intercooler is stamped with allis chalmers Im going to get some serial numbers when go up and see what i find out. Now you've got me curious what I stumbled across. It would be ironic if it was 7020 engine right after I try to build one. Don't get me started if it runs good. like I said I'm no expert on when they offered what where. Did the straight Ls have the bigger oil cooler?
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1980 and up combines are black engines, not orange.  Don't think you'll ever find a 301 with an intercooler on an orange engine unless someone added it in the field.
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Originally posted by injpumpEd injpumpEd wrote:

Seems to me people confuse the oil cooler and innercooler terms. BTW, nice work saving the ole iron! A 130 flywheel hp 301 should be fine and efficient for what you're doing. 


This engine has both intercooler and bigger oil cooler i plan on changing both. But your right i was taking about the oil cooler.
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Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:


Model "L" never had an intercooler available. Not until 1980 & up L-2/L-3's.


I wondered about that. But I'm no expert on that and didn't question it. So it must have a different engine in it. It's the same setup as my bothers 7020 but it's orange so I'm guessing it's out of another combine.
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Seems to me people confuse the oil cooler and innercooler terms. BTW, nice work saving the ole iron! A 130 flywheel hp 301 should be fine and efficient for what you're doing. 

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Model "L" never had an intercooler available. Not until 1980 & up L-2/L-3's.
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Originally posted by AC7060IL AC7060IL wrote:

Thanks for photos & congratulations on your AC project. Good to see any AC kept from going to salvage yard.

So... basically you’ve built a turned up 7010? Well that is - assuming the 301 is turboed only. I don’t see a 7020 intercooler.


The bigger intercooler is coming. I found a 301 in a L Gleaner at the bone yard he only wants 600 for the whole engine and I'm told "it runs great" to quote the guy lol. In the next couple weeks here I'm headed up with the compression tester and battery to check it out. But the plan is to take that intercooler and put it on this 301 and dull the new one down for a back up for my M2 Gleaner. Mine runs good but it makes me feel better knowing the engine could blow up and I can be back in the field the next day.
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Originally posted by MACK MACK wrote:

I still like the torque of that old 426 when it has a load behind it.          MACK




I'm with ya there mack the 426 is a whole different animal. I only have a 100 acre organic operation. As I was pulling out of my last field this spring I was looking at the neighbors fields going "I wonder if they could use some help this year". Hahaha. But it would pull that 24ft field cultivator in 6th. I've got some clay hills on the farm that dropped it to 5th and 4th on rare occasion but over all it didn't care.
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Originally posted by wade89 wade89 wrote:

Not being negative, always glad to see Orange back up and moving. Why the 301?


Well we have 2 7060s with the 426 one i overhauled this winter. The other is getting the works this fall. I've got a 24ft field cultivator and a 6 bottom 18in plow. And that's the only implements on the farm that take more that 100hp to pull. So when I got into the 426 it had 2 spun bearing needed seats and valve guides new valves of cource and a complete overhaul we were looking at around 4 grand in parts and machine labor. We had the 301 sitting collecting dust i put $1700 into it that includes the adapter plate from a 7020. Plus I wanted fuel efficiency and its real hard to beat a 301 if your looking for over 100hp. Grandpas 190xt has been the workhorse on this farm since he bought it new its been my go to until now like I said it's a wonderful upgrade from that with only about a half gallon an hour more fuel consumption. The air conditioner is worth all of that lol.
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I still like the torque of that old 426 when it has a load behind it.          MACK
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Thanks for photos & congratulations on your AC project. Good to see any AC kept from going to salvage yard.

So... basically you’ve built a turned up 7010? Well that is - assuming the 301 is turboed only. I don’t see a 7020 intercooler.

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Nice job, 301 is a heck of a good motor.
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Not being negative, always glad to see Orange back up and moving. Why the 301?
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Looks amazing.
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Great job! And thanks for the pics !
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Thanks guys. I was definitely relieved to see it run. This is the 1st diesel I've completely overhauled like this I've done some gassers and so many small engines I can't count. But there was some nerves going as we hooked this one up to the plow. But it just made it all the more satisfying to watch it work.
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Great job👍 Well done!
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I'm sure you were happy after rebuilding engine and have it run so good. I know the feeling. 
 
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I figured 5 18s would serve well on the break in. We plowed around 60 acres with it this spring. It was running good but after about 2 acres you could tell everything seated up and it's ran like a brand new 301 as it should. Very happy with the results of this project. The pump is set at 135 hp. The engine doesn't lug or seem overstressed at all. It is one hell of an upgrade from the 190xt with comparable fuel efficiency.
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