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   for you TL-12 owners.  Do the Pre 1960 redesign models with diesel engine have the same frame as the gas models?  My gasser that i thought was a steal has a lot of blowby and im pretty sure it needs and overhaul.  I am entertaining the idea of transplanting a diesel into it (252) as I plan to use it and would be better on fuel.  (yeah, expensive and a lot of work) Looks as if the rear axle pivot would be in the oil pan, and a really tight squeeze to get it in there.
otherwise loader is in very good condition,   i will not be chopping anything up to change motors,  if im dreaming and its not a direct swap, i will just overhaul the 17 gas engine and put it back in.

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CAL(KS) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3800	Post Options Post Reply Quote CAL(KS) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: TL-12 experts question Posted: 03 Jul 2014 at 6:18am
	for you TL-12 owners. Do the Pre 1960 redesign models with diesel engine have the same frame as the gas models? My gasser that i thought was a steal has a lot of blowby and im pretty sure it needs and overhaul. I am entertaining the idea of transplanting a diesel into it (252) as I plan to use it and would be better on fuel. (yeah, expensive and a lot of work) Looks as if the rear axle pivot would be in the oil pan, and a really tight squeeze to get it in there. otherwise loader is in very good condition, i will not be chopping anything up to change motors, if im dreaming and its not a direct swap, i will just overhaul the 17 gas engine and put it back in.
	Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15

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	My early TL12 had it's engine replaced with a 353 Detroit which sort of fits, although they had to move some parts around to make it work. I would think the diesel would bolt right in cause I'm pretty sure there wasn't really any difference between the two besides for the engine, but I'd want to do a bunch of measuring first.

CAL(KS) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3800	Post Options Post Reply Quote CAL(KS) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jul 2014 at 7:19pm
	i didnt think there was much difference either. since my first post i measured a 230 gas engine i have and also put the tape to the TL-12. the engine would fit with the radiator moved back a ways, but i cant understand how they get it past the rear axle pivot. on a TL-10 2wd, it would be easy, with only a steer axle back there. but the TL-12 drive axle pivot sticks up into the engine compartment and really doesnt clear the 226 gas crank pulley by much. i would really ike to see some pictures of a diesel to see how it was done.
	Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15