3rd times the charm

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well after much angst i have figured out why i kept loosing oil in the steering sytem on my HD16.  when i bought it, the  bearings were out on the clutch actuating shaft and was dumping the oil out.  so i removed the fuel tank and all the steering housing components along with the clutch covers to repair.   oe seal was not available so i went with a national seal with the correct dimensions.  worked great for a while then started leaking again.  so tore it down again and installed 2 seals on each side since the OE seal was a double.   now the third time has revealed why.  seal is pushed out,  figured out the breather on the reservoir was plugged   here is a pic of the seal and a breakdown of how it fits together.  the breakdown is from a HD15 and a part i was needing for dads but mine is basically the same.  one thing about it,  i can have the brush canopy, fuel tank and all the stuff needed off in about 2 hours 

Edited by CAL(KS) - 31 Oct 2013 at 9:30am

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CAL(KS) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3800	Post Options Post Reply Quote CAL(KS) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 3rd times the charm Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 9:30am
	well after much angst i have figured out why i kept loosing oil in the steering sytem on my HD16. when i bought it, the bearings were out on the clutch actuating shaft and was dumping the oil out. so i removed the fuel tank and all the steering housing components along with the clutch covers to repair. oe seal was not available so i went with a national seal with the correct dimensions. worked great for a while then started leaking again. so tore it down again and installed 2 seals on each side since the OE seal was a double. now the third time has revealed why. seal is pushed out, figured out the breather on the reservoir was plugged here is a pic of the seal and a breakdown of how it fits together. the breakdown is from a HD15 and a part i was needing for dads but mine is basically the same. one thing about it, i can have the brush canopy, fuel tank and all the stuff needed off in about 2 hours Edited by CAL(KS) - 31 Oct 2013 at 9:30am
	Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15

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CAL(KS) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3800	Post Options Post Reply Quote CAL(KS) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 9:40am
	heres what the job looks like
	Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15

JohnCO Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Niwot Colo Points: 8992	Post Options Post Reply Quote JohnCO Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 10:58pm
	Third time is a charm, we hope! Edited by JohnCO - 31 Oct 2013 at 11:06pm
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	Cal I work on Houle manure handling equipment and we have been told by the factory that when we rebuild a gear box or a bearing housing to use Lock Tite around the seal when we put them in to help hold them in place. We have found that it works very well. Most of the time when we have seal probs its the same thing a plugged breather. I have done this to my goose neck trailer that had seal problems and it has been fine ever since. Hope this is helpful or gives you a idea. Edited by 46royf - 01 Nov 2013 at 7:32am

ac_sd Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 23 Apr 2011 Points: 194	Post Options Post Reply Quote ac_sd Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Nov 2013 at 8:17pm
	Practice makes perfect!! CAT used a similar setup on the D7 and D8 ( I believe D7 17A Series and D8 14A/15A Series). Nice Shop!!!