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Posted: 04 Oct 2016 at 3:48pm |
Hey guys, back in June I purchased (2) model "G" tractors. One of which has the manual lift and looks to be an early serial number. I know VERY LITTLE about these tractors and have been told to look at the number near the shifter as the serial number. Well.....that number is very hard to get your eyes on and from what I can tell, it reads "G(2,3,8)64". I can't tell whether the first number is a 2, 3, or an 8. Is there any other place the serial number might be stamped? What about trying to date it another way such as casting codes? I own a bunch of Farmalls and you can do it to them. Please help!
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Posted: 04 Oct 2016 at 3:50pm |
Here are some pictures......
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Posted: 04 Oct 2016 at 3:54pm |
and 1 more picture................ 
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Posted: 04 Oct 2016 at 4:40pm |
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That first impression is the letter G, the model letter.
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Posted: 04 Oct 2016 at 7:34pm |
I see G26461. My G is S/N G2004. It's a 1948. Yours is later. If I had Swinford's book with me, I'd look it up and tell you what year yours was.
By the way...you mention casting numbers...You can do that with Ford tractors and B Allis engines too, but I'm not sure about the G.
Edited by CrestonM - 04 Oct 2016 at 7:35pm
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Posted: 04 Oct 2016 at 7:55pm |
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Per Norm's book, end # was 10960, for 1948...
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Posted: 04 Oct 2016 at 10:14pm |
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I see G26451.
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Posted: 05 Oct 2016 at 4:31am |
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I must be blind, and I have my glasses on. All I see is G264, no 51 or 61 after those numbers.
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Posted: 05 Oct 2016 at 6:29am |
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Take a soft wire wheel and lightly remove the paint THEN use a strong pinpoint light AT AN ANGLE look at the casting AT AN ANGLE. You'll have to 'look from at sides' and eventually you'll find the right combination to light and angle to see the numbers.
It gets harder the older you get though.......
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Edited by jaybmiller - 05 Oct 2016 at 6:30am
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Posted: 05 Oct 2016 at 7:27am |
 Bob D. (La) wrote:
I must be blind, and I have my glasses on. All I see is G264, no 51 or 61 after those numbers. |
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Posted: 05 Oct 2016 at 8:06am |
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Thanks guys, willl have to get in there and see what I can find. It is a tight spot to get to but I will try my best.
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Posted: 05 Oct 2016 at 8:21am |
I see the G264 clearly if there is a digit after that it is very faint, more likely half a century of rust. The vertical mark after that looks like a 1 but its a different size than the other visible digits. More likely a scratch from an implement part. There will be an independent serial number on the engine but since it was not made by AC and not unique to the G, correlating the two serial numbers will be difficult, needing the factory build log if it exists. A good Continental parts dealer like http://montesequipment.com/ might be able to show a year for the engine. Gerald J.
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Posted: 05 Oct 2016 at 9:52am |
truckerfarmer wrote:
I see G26451. |
Thats what I see as well.
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Posted: 05 Oct 2016 at 10:11am |
According tp http://www.allischalmers.com/serials.html G26451 would be a 1952 model with the serial numbers for that year ending with G26496. Gerald J.
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Posted: 06 Oct 2016 at 6:56am |
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Must been a tall guy that owned it ,see where they put a spacer to make it longer.
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Posted: 06 Oct 2016 at 7:02am |
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Looks like G26451 to me.
That torque tube extension could be an accident waiting to happen. The ears on the torque tub, not having a place to clamp to that is flat and solid, could very easily snap off.
It has happened on some G's before.
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Posted: 06 Oct 2016 at 8:05am |
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I see what you mean. Thanks for the advice. I was wondering why that spacer was there. Figured it was required when using that mounted plow. Did A-C make a factory spacer that would work better? I should probably take that off next chance I get. This one isn't running right now and I need to dig into it to get it going.
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Posted: 06 Oct 2016 at 9:14am |
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No, Allis didn't make spacers, sore knees did!
+1 on getting it off before the ears pop!
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Posted: 06 Oct 2016 at 9:39am |
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Is it ok for it to have a properly made spacer? Apparently it is/was a common practice to do this?
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Posted: 06 Oct 2016 at 12:40pm |
Chase What part of Al are you in? We are having a tractor show at Noccalula
Falls in Gadsden, Al October 14-15. It is called "G" Round Up. Would like for you to come. We have plenty of information on G's. You can call me at 2564906134. Thanks! Lenn Hill
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Posted: 06 Oct 2016 at 1:13pm |
L. Hill wrote:
Chase What part of Al are you in? We are having a tractor show at Noccalula
Falls in Gadsden, Al October 14-15. It is called "G" Round Up. Would like for you to come. We have plenty of information on G's. You can call me at 2564906134. Thanks! Lenn Hill
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Thanks Mr. Hill I came to it a few years ago and brought a Farmall Cub. Good show. I hope I can find time to make it this year. Probabaly won't get to bring a "G" though due to lack of time to prepare.
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Posted: 06 Oct 2016 at 1:13pm |
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I am located in McCalla, AL just outside of Bessemer.
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Posted: 08 Nov 2016 at 8:47am |
CTuckerNWIL wrote:
Looks like G26451 to me.
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Took the seat off yesterday and hit it with a wire wheel on a grinder. "G26451" is what I read. It was still hard to read but that is what I got and since several of you agreed I am going with it. I was really hoping it was an early serial number, but oh well.
Ended up charging the "new" 6 volt battery on it to see if that was the issue causing the problem of no juice to start. I then unhooked the (+) battery cable to check the ground. When I did, the ground cable sparked. That told me there was something "on" or grounded out. On/off toggle switch in both directions gave me the spark, then I realized that checking the ground continuity at the tractor frame, the (-) battery cable to the starter faulted as a ground. It was very frayed and (probably original) I made sure nothing was touching it. Still my meter beeped. I decided that starter must have been bad and grounded out, so I removed it to be repaired.
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