Series 610 all terrain forklift

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Edited by steve(ill) - 17 Nov 2024 at 6:34pm

STEVE can also heip you with a starter / generator / wire harness if needed.... and answer ALL the questions..

I got the new distributor, and it still sputters, but wont run. it sparks fine. I checked the compression and i had zero psi in 3 and only 90 in 4. 1 and 2 were 140. Not good enough to run!

I took the head of in 15 minutes. You gotta love tractors. the valves in 3 werent seating properly, and the ex valve in 4 was chipped away. So that explains that.

gonna order some parts, and have the valve seats redone. I finally got the book on my tractor/forklift, and the book says I have a Power Crater 160 motor, but I cant find much info on them, anyone know?

apparently there was also a perkins 3 cyl that was called that as well.

couple of sites list a different part number for the later D15 II engines ( i think they mean the 175 cid diesel)-- ( valve kit).. some site list them as all the same..( gas??). VERIFY with vendor prior to purchase..

Edited by steve(ill) - 01 Dec 2024 at 7:49pm

The Allis WD came out in 1948 with W Series 201 cu.in. with Flat Top Pistons.

In 1953 the WD was upgraded and introduced as the WD-45.

The 'W' Block was revised, the stroke was increased to give 226 cu.in. and the Flat Top Pistons were replaced with dished top Pistons.

This Engine was advertised on WD-45 Brochures as:

   The Dynamic New WD-45 tractor with POWER-CRATER Engine

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p4432023.m570.l1313&_nkw=Allis+WD-45+Power+Crater+brochure&_sacat=0



The G Series Engine, as it was known, was introduced in 1957 by Allis as a 149 cu.in. Engine in one of first 'D' Series Tractors, the D-14,a 6 Volt electric

In 1959 Allis introduced the D-10 and D-12, de-cubed to 138 cu.in. still 6 Volt.

In 1961 the G Engine was back to 149 in D-10 / 12, but with 12 Volt.

About that same time the D-15 was introduced replacing the D-14, but still 149.

The early D-15 were grossly underpowered for their size, esp. with D-10 and     D-12's having the same Engine.

So the D-15 was upgraded to a Ser.II Model with a 160 cu.in. Engine.

Other mods to the 160 were a Full-Flow Oil Filter ( Fram PH8A), replacing the previous By-Pass filter (C159), a horizontal Dry Type Air Filter , replacing the Oil-Bath style.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/126787463857?_skw=Allis+D-15+Ser.II+brochure&itmmeta=01JE2S5KYT1XFCHGADY8H6G8PV&hash=item1d851f2ab1:g:XhkAAOSwwVdnPgzF&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKmYvzn6K%2BECxuL65MN4XW5VpDIVzrenQznetIb4Q0iqFYokK%2B%2Bl1GlHlY2zdnICk9t5jrAZFb4FLhTBjw21KmNwGloIrebnHhYH9QLgIPiv7AGEL4iDmWrbugDqUri%2FXZ2kpszP1NQz5bUgiCRk0SR9PbdkzQ%2BcEvJ0c11oQ2csriyHO98Z1zQWDb4bX0WyWHivGrpPtcQFrpjfFBiJJiERf8rqFUN9knACjHzw2N9VQGGU8hWJTCAi7ADv3V0ExaaVhzxDT%2BkfHe7AAE27oC1gnbH7urhwYkGOcO9haVQOvw%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8C_ltnwZA

This gives you a little more insight to the Allis progression from the 'B/C' Series 125 cu.in. up to the G Series 160 cu.in.

Gary

BTW the 500 Series and 600 Series Rough Terrain Fork Lift are NOT based on the D-15 Farm Tractor like some other Allis Industrial Models.

The 500's and 600's are an extra Heavy Duty Brute all their own.

I got the cyl head rebuilt and back torqued on and everything looks good. Now the starter is sticking on. I guess I'll have to troubleshoot why, might just get a new one. Also I found a bent pushrod and a few small things. hopefully I ll have it running this week.

I got it running, but very poorly. It has equal psi on 4 with compression test. It is getting spark. It does run and rev up, but very poorly and won't stay running for any length of time.It is pretty smooth when it does, sounds OK.   I am going to have to set the timing a little better, I am just guessing now, and the carb is leaking down, and it is new and has only had double filtered fuel in it. grrrr! I dont think I have ever had a carb without a sticking needle and seat. Is there any adjusting on the carb I need to do? I have the lean rich air bleed 1.5 turns out.   

I am just guessing on the timing. Is the rotation clockwise? If so, I am fine. 1243. I am pretty sure I have a fuel flow issue. because it runs and dies and has a pronounced sucking sound, which I think is the jets sucking air. I checked the fuel flow by removing the line to the carb and it is really slow! So I'll check that out. Also, the lean rich mixture was way out and I am trying four complete turns out. Thanks for the help....

OK, I had some time to mess with it and I cannot get it started. It will run and stumble a bit and then die. I am not sure what I am doing wrong. I had the cylinder head rebuilt, and all valves are lashed to spec. it is getting good compression on all 4 cylinders. I have a new distributor from steve, I dont know if they need adjusting or not.

I set the timing by finding the compression stroke while lashing the valves. air was pushing out the spark plug hole and then I set the distributor button in about 10 degrees anti clockwise of TDC to guess on the timing. I have read that the distributor button turns clockwise.it is 1-2-4-3.    

new carb and new plugs. I have the flat head idle mix screw out 1.5 turns and the lean/rich t bar screw four complete turns out. If I adjust the idle all the way up, it might stay running about 10 seconds. it is then very difficult to start. I cant keep it running long enough to set the timing with a light.

I tried the old carb and amazingly enough it did the exact same thing. I have tried every combination of choke, starter fluid, +5. 10 degrees timing, and -5 and -10. Nothing seems to work.

Something is wrong, this thing should run better than this. I am going to put it down for a while.