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wjohn 
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Posted: 04 Apr 2025 at 7:24pm |
The grain truck I bought is just under 8' tall over the bed sides. I measured and I don't think my unloading All-Crop 60 auger will clear unless I ramp up the bin-side wheel of the combine on some boards and maybe have the truck parked in a low spot.
I have another 60 for parts. If I cut up the parts combine auger and tube, and attached say 1-2' of them to my better combine, I think I'd clear. Is there anything special about extending an auger like this? Just figure out a way to weld/pin the two augers together and bolt the tubes up somehow?
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IBWD MIke
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Posted: 05 Apr 2025 at 6:19am |
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That would be an ambitious project! Keeping everything straight so the flighting doesn't rub the tube would be the hardest part.
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Posted: 05 Apr 2025 at 10:21am |
DennisA (IL) posted pictures of what sounds like an AC attachment for this, but the pictures are long gone:
https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/60-allcrop-harvester-attchments_topic57341.html
I think this was his for sale and he made a nice video of it. He mentions the auger extension around 3:03:
This attachment is not mentioned in either of my All-Crop manuals, but they could be too old. I would love to have details about the auger extension attachment if anyone has one or has installed one in the past.
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Pat the Plumber CIL
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Posted: 05 Apr 2025 at 11:25am |
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Thanks for posting the links, great videos of the nicest 60 you will ever see. Someone took really good care of that machine.
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Posted: 05 Apr 2025 at 11:45am |
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Years ago, New Idea Uni’s had a model or two of their Combines that had an unloading auger that went straight out the back of the grain bin, that was long enough to dump into a trailing gravity box hitched to the combine. That auger was maybe, 6”? folded manually in the middle. We didn’t use very often, just to use when opening up the couple 100+ acre fields, we had. It was not fast, it enabled you make a complete round trip before the grain bin overflowed.
Edited by Lars(wi) - 05 Apr 2025 at 11:46am
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Posted: 05 Apr 2025 at 4:46pm |
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Maybe to justify the effort, extend auger further than 1-2’? Perhaps an 8.5-9’ gravity wagon or other future possibilities could evolve?
If extending say +5’, then maybe add a fold into the auger.
Whichever the case, some of the following may work?
-expand extension auger tube’s joining end by 1-1.5” for it to slide over original auger tube. Then weld or bolt to connect them? Expansion could easily be accomplished by using thin 1/16”cuts spaced (2”?) around its 18.84” diameter (6x3.14). Then slightly bend 2” pieces outward, slide expanded tube over original tub’s end, & hammer 2” flanges back into fit & weld. Maybe use a short inner pipe to connect 2 flightings with weld or bolts?
-OR, add a fold hinge into auger during extension that could assist for transport/storage? Might be able to purchase an 6” auger fold kit(flat flanges, inner bearing support, locking mechanism, etc)? Manufacturers of weigh wagons sometimes offer folding 6” unloading auger parts?
Edited by AC7060IL - 05 Apr 2025 at 4:48pm
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Posted: 05 Apr 2025 at 5:08pm |
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Use the flanges for the tube and the coupler for the auger that they use on a 66 allcrop where the auger folds upright.
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Posted: 05 Apr 2025 at 6:07pm |
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My brother made a 3 foot extension for one of our AllCrop augers. It looks amazingly good!!! I would love to post pictures of it for your interest if it wasn't so difficult to do so. Ryan
Edited by Ryan Renko - 05 Apr 2025 at 6:08pm
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Posted: 06 Apr 2025 at 7:06pm |
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I have a factory extension I put on a 60A back in 2015. It's been 10 years now, so I might not remember everything perfectly, but this is how I recall installing it. It came with a stub shaft several inches long that fit inside the existing combine auger shaft. You had to drill a hole in the auger shaft in order to drive a roll pin through the auger shaft and stub shaft. After that, you slide the extension shaft with flighting over the stub shaft, and there is a set screw on the extension shaft that you tighten to secure the extension auger shaft to the stub shaft. To extend the tube, it came with a section that had the lower 5" or so of the crimped seam cut out. That allowed the tube to flare out the necessary amount and slide over the existing tube. Then just put the bushing on the end of the extension tube, attach the spout, and it's done. My explanation might not be the best, but it was fairly straightforward.
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Posted: 09 Apr 2025 at 6:28pm |
Posting pic for Ryan Renko 
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Posted: 09 Apr 2025 at 6:32pm |
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Posted: 09 Apr 2025 at 6:35pm |
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The Renko Brothers from Edwardsville Illinois have some neat stuff in that Quansathut. If I could just get them to travel farther than 2 hours,,,
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Posted: 09 Apr 2025 at 9:59pm |
That is an amazing looking extension from the Renkos. Lots of good ideas in this thread.
Creston, that description was helpful too. Interestingly enough, there is already a cross-drilled hole near the end of my existing auger shaft - but mine isn't even a 60A, just a 60. Maybe the auger in mine got replaced at one point later on, and by then AC had started putting that hole for the extension there?
I have some time to think it over as I am focusing on my CII and won't have the 60 operational this year, but you can never start planning and accumulating parts too soon.
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Posted: 10 Apr 2025 at 7:20am |
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That extension is cool, now if we could figure out a cylinder to swing it out and back in.....
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Posted: 10 Apr 2025 at 7:29am |
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That extension is cool, now if we could figure out a cylinder to swing it out and back in..... |
Maybe a (electric) linear actuator would work? I used one on my snowblower chute and I really like the way it works. Amazon and Surplus Center have them very reasonably priced.
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Posted: 11 Apr 2025 at 9:43am |
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I like the linear actuator idea.
One I think of with adding a significantly longer extension is how much extra power will that take to drive when it’s full of grain, and what’s the weakest link in the drive system? You might run into an issue with the slip clutch not holding.
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Posted: 11 Apr 2025 at 5:37pm |
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Oats are easy to auger if they are dry and when they are wet usually don't flow to the auger so fast. Heavy wheat and soybeans are harder to auger. Is there an adjustable baffle in the bottom of the grain tank? Shut it down some so you don't fill the auger so full.
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Posted: 12 Apr 2025 at 8:10am |
DanWi wrote:
Oats are easy to auger if they are dry and when they are wet usually don't flow to the auger so fast. Heavy wheat and soybeans are harder to auger. Is there an adjustable baffle in the bottom of the grain tank? Shut it down some so you don't fill the auger so full. |
There is no gate to limit how much is fed into the unloading auger. I too am concerned about putting too much load on the clutch and how much weight would be hanging off of the bin... I'm sure there's a limit to how far you can go. It's probably safest to keep it within the length of whatever the AC extension attachment was.
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Posted: 12 Apr 2025 at 8:33am |
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Does it not use a panel over the bin screw which controls flow like a Gleaner?
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Posted: 12 Apr 2025 at 11:13pm |
SteveM C/IL wrote:
Does it not use a panel over the bin screw which controls flow like a Gleaner? |
Bin screw, psh. That's new-fangled technology. At least, there is no bin screw or any kind of feed gate I can see on my 60 (pre-60A) combines. The bin just slopes and is gravity fed into the unloading auger.
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Posted: 13 Apr 2025 at 12:19am |
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Been too many years since I looked in dad's 90 and it's long gone.
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Posted: 13 Apr 2025 at 9:19am |
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I found a video of a 90 on YT that shows a shot of the bin. Your memory is good... on those, they look to have a bin screw and a shield over the top of it more like our Gleaners.
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Posted: 13 Apr 2025 at 10:54pm |
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Well....we had a 60 before the 90 and I might have been 10? so I for sure don't remember the 60 set up.
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Posted: Yesterday at 5:21am |
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I looked on mine last night: straight gravity feed
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